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Martian Manhunter vs Marvel Telepaths

Another random gauntlet. Martian Manhunter faces these telepaths. There's no prep time but opponents have knowledge of each other. How far does he get if he is revived after each fight and how far if he is not.

1. Caliban
2. Karma
3. Monet St Croix
4. Dani Moonstar
5. Classic Marvel Girl
6. Mesmero
7. Mastermind
8. Stepford Cuckoos Hivemind
9. Psylocke
10. Sage
11. Oracle
12. Sinister
13. Emma Frost
14. Shadow King
15. Professor Xavier


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up to shadow king if he is revived every round

up to psylocke if he is not


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Shadow King really?

I'm just bumping my thread back up to the top laughing


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As MM is better telepath the Xavier, he could beat them all...


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Adam Warlock
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Darkcrawler is right, MM's telepathy is a bit more powerful than Xavier's. Stick Nate Grey on that list. Then I think he loses.


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I have newfound respect for MM. What about the entire list vs him.


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In pure telepathic battle, MM might defeat even Nate.

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With the Martian race having evolved out of a predominantly nomadic race of creatures, telepathy was their natural means of communication which over the centuries the Martians were able to craft into a highly effective state, coming known to be the most adept psions in the cosmos. Now, being the last of his kind, J'onn's mind is often regarded as being the most adept in all of the universe, though technically there are minds greater in power than his (Hector Hammond for example) there is no one that more skilled in the arts of the mind than he. Seen as a premier hero all over the world, beings from all over the cosmos revere the Martian for his psionic abilities and knowledge, making him the foremost authority on the powers of the mind anywhere.

Requiring little to no effort to read the thoughts of those around him, only those of shielded minds can hide their thinking from the Martian, as he can reason through even those from an insane man (though those of an advanced state of insanity such as the Joker are far too erratic for him). Skilled in the practice of sorting through memories and associated thoughts related to emotions, he can reason though the minds of most anyone from any background, language, or race as he can even communicate typically with completely unknown entities. As long as a source has a mind, no matter how bizarrely sentient, J'onn can find some means to make at least a basic contact.

Having organized his mind into a Mental Mansion, he has attempted to put a manifested form to his own mind in order to be able to organize his own mind all the better. Essentially now, J'onn's mind is divided in a mansion-like structure, with each identity he has having its own room, one full of memories and thoughts and emotions, that to assume all he needs to do is to open that door and enter the room. At the core of this Mental Mansion is the Library in the Cellar, where all of his own personal memories are stored.

What can block or break down J'onn's telepathy is his ultimate weakness, that of fire. Fire, to a Martian, calls upon their most primal aspects of their minds, eroding away at their thoughts and descending them into a kind of madness that sees them destroying themselves. Unable to escape this allure, in the presence of flames J'onn is only able to focus on other things with great concentration and should he come in contact with a flame, he would become instantly lost to this failing. Causing physical trauma as well, the presence of fire will cause J'onn to cease all of his telepathic abilities.

Not having the most powerful of psionic minds, J'onn does have the most skilled so while his mental assaults may not always be the most overpowering, they are often very skilled and precisely effective. All of his offense uses are very draining to J'onn physically, as to the Martian body and mind are interwoven so intricately that to use his telepathy in an invasive manner traumatizes him to the point of physical exertion. Even the smallest of offense uses drains J'onn to some degree, and the more powerful or intricate the attack, the greater the strain on his body he risks as high end stunts will cause him to collapse into unconsciousness. It is possible for him to exert his mind so much that he could cause his own death.

Not only able to read thoughts, J'onn can also exert his mind over that of others, projecting thoughts and memories into a being to such a degree that they are believable. In effect creating an illusion of what isn't really there; he tricks the mind into believing that it is or even fooling it into not seeing what is plainly there. By extension, he can also edit the memories or thoughts of others, removing or even implanting false ones, and even whole identities. J'onn can also place skills and other blocks of knowledge in the minds of others, that can be known to the mind instantly or even be time delayed to emerge after a specific time or event, in a version of a kind of post-hypnotic suggestion. He can even block select thoughts in others, preventing them from remembering certain things, from memories to even how to use a skill or power.

The height of his telepathic might can be summoned forth for a devastating psionic blast which assaults the target mind with a surge of traumatizing memories and thoughts in efforts to overpower it to unconsciousness. Yet the use f this is typically a last resort for J'onn, as it is nearly as draining for him as it is for his victim.

No one is more skilled in the management of psionic skills than J'onn J'onzz. While there are other telepaths with greater power, J'onn is by and large the foremost expert on the subject. From the development of mental fortitudes to the management of his many personalities and filing of memories, J'onn is the greatest authority on the subject. While J'onn is by no means the most powerful telepath in the world, he is decidedly the most skilled in controlling the power that he has. As a martian, he has discovered avenues for his telepathy that normal telepaths haven't been able to. Also, as a man greatly skilled in espionage, J'onn has learned to use his telepathy in subversive and undetectable (to anyone by superior level telepaths and those who know their mind) methods.


Nobody is better in telepathic skill then J'onn...but some may have more raw power then him.


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Adam Warlock
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Nate is no ordinary telepath.

Xman #10

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Xavier was concerned that Nate was apparently able to shield to shield himself from Cerebro, which shouldn’t be possible, and entered the astral plane to search for the telepath himself. When he found him, Nate had just erased the memories of an entire crowd of mutant haters and, sensing that he was being watched, Nate dragged Xavier astral form into reality – something that the professor had believed impossible.


Nate's powers:

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Tap into the enormous psychic resources of the astral plane order to manipulate matter and energy, manifesting hard-psi to:
- levitate and direct physical objects
- fire mental force bolts
- cause violent explosive reactions in matter
- fly through the air
- shield himself and others from attack
- increase the physical power of his blows
- flow his molecules through another solid object to become intangible

and soft-psi to:
- scan for brain wave patterns
- project and manipulate thoughts
- intuitively translate new languages
- forge psi-links to travel in astral form
- generate realistic illusions out of psi-plasm
- establish mental defenses against new psionic attacks
- give substance to astral energy to solidify psychic forms or forge protective psi-armor


It won't be a pure telepathic battle. He'll drag MM's astral from back into reality and psionically mess him up. MM put's up a good fight though.


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Oh the list was never meant to be of purely astral battles. Their other abilities if they have them are sposed to come into play to. MM probably still beats them though since he also has several other abilities.

(I think Sage is immune to psychic attack, her own formidable psionic ability is completely diminished because all of it goes into impenetrable psychic barriers that reflect attacks back upon the attacker.)


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Well, if it is other abilities too...MM can resist them and snap their necks.


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No one can resist Sage lol


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I would add X-man, Cable and Moondragon with gem to add some meat to the tail end of the gauntlet smile


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MM is good but but nothing about him suggests he is above emma frost level. Xavier , nate, jean and cable will take him out.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
MM is good but but nothing about him suggests he is above emma frost level.


Just...ask...Draco...about that.


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Let me quote him:

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Believe it or not, Martian Manhunter is a stronger and more adept telepath than Charles Xavier. MM is capable of mind-reading, astral projection, psi-bolts, and mindwiping just like Charles Xavier is. However, there are a few things in favor of our favorite Gumby.

When Charles Xavier first discovered his mutant powers, he endeavored to train himself in the use of his powers. MM on the other hand is quite different. The Martian society that MM grew up has thousands of years of culture and advancement. The Martians were all telepathic and developed new and different techniques as years passed on. MM absorbed all of these techniques instantly via telepathy. MM's brain virtually houses thousands of years of telepathic techniques, battle strategies, and training. Charles Xavier was self-taught. MM is capable of connecting with every sentinent person on Earth. Charles is incapable of this action without the aid of Cerebra. MM once mindwiped 70 different people around the globe simultaneously, including Lex Luthor. Charles Xavier exhausted himself mindwiping ONE (i.e. Magneto). MM has literally everyone of his peoples', from the beginning of his race to the end, telepathic prowess, experience, and techniques. Charles Xavier only has his experiences. MM takes this one without a doubt.


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A very valid argument. Charles CANNOT contact aliens light-years away. He can only contact his off and on soulmate the Shi'ar Queen Lilandra. Martian Manhunter is capable of mental manipulation, even more so than Charles Xavier. He has more than two-thousand years of telepathic experience. Charles Xavier only has his own limited experience. Everything Charles can do, MM can do better. The Shadow King is one very powerful opponent that Charles barely defeated (at the cost of his legs no less). MM once battle 400 White Martians in psychic combat and won. Charles Xavier was a self-taught telepath. MM was a war general that studied and mastered over two-thousand years of Martian telepathic techniques, skills, and principles. In essence, Charles Xavier has barely scratched the surface. It's like comparing a elementary school math student to a Harvard-educated mathmatician. Its no comparsion. The things that Charles has mastered as an adult, MM had mastered as a child. All Martians are naturally telepathic. Telepathy is their way of life. They've created hundreds of styles, techniques and skills for thousands of years. MM mastered them all. MM takes this one.


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one thing MM has going for him is taht hes aliena nd thought processes work different from a humans.
hes accustomed manipulating human minds, but they arent as familiar manipulating a martians. he has an opening advantage


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MM is so powerful that he can't read Joker's mind and he passes out after any offensive use of telepathy.

Pfft.

He doesn't get past Sinister.


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Exactly how strong a telepath is Sinister anyway?

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Where did he pass out?


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"Not having the most powerful of psionic minds, J'onn does have the most skilled so while his mental assaults may not always be the most overpowering, they are often very skilled and precisely effective. All of his offense uses are very draining to J'onn physically, as to the Martian body and mind are interwoven so intricately that to use his telepathy in an invasive manner traumatizes him to the point of physical exertion. Even the smallest of offense uses drains J'onn to some degree, and the more powerful or intricate the attack, the greater the strain on his body he risks as high end stunts will cause him to collapse into unconsciousness. It is possible for him to exert his mind so much that he could cause his own death."

Says right there.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mainstream
Exactly how strong a telepath is Sinister anyway?


Sinister is a defensive specialist when it comes to telepathy, kind of like Apocalypse. He can't really USE telepathy offensively, but he has powerful enough mind traps that he was able to knock out Nate with them the instant Nate invaded his mind.


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