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Batman goes through gauntlet

1. Batgirl

2. Robin

3. Manbat

4. Clayface

5. Night Wing

6. Lady Shiva

7. Killer Croc

8. Bane (pumped with venom)

9. Azrael

10. Batman Beyond

11. Moon Knight

12. Dare Devil

13. Venom




1 day's rest between each round, how far does Bats get before he keels over from sheer exhaustion

note: batman does not have access to anything other than his belt


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I think Batman can go through all of them.

...he might need more than 1 day's rest though.....

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bats beats them all

lady shiva gives the most trouble


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bats beats them all

lady shiva gives the most trouble


you don't think fatigue is a factor?


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If he only has his belt, and Im assuming you mean his "normal" belt with "normal" toys, I think He will run dry around Bane/Azreal level, since Im sure he'll have injuries from Nightwing/Shiva/Croc level.


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If he only has his belt, and Im assuming you mean his "normal" belt with "normal" toys, I think He will run dry around Bane/Azreal level, since Im sure he'll have injuries from Nightwing/Shiva/Croc level.


yep, that's how far I see him getting

he might be able to get past Bane, but he would be too injured to beat Azrael


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The current Batgirl is actually Batman's martial arts superior. If he wins, it's due to being too tricky for her. I don't know if he'll win, but for the sake of not having him lose at the beginning, we'll say he does.

He'll make it through Robin pretty easily, as the current one is more of a detective prodigy than a physical prodigy like Grayson is; it's taken Tim a lot more effort to gain the skill he has now. I think Man-Bat and Clayface can wear a non-prep Batman out pretty fast. He might have the strength to continue onwards and, though doubtful, maybe beat Nightwing out, just barely. But he'll fall at Shiva. She's already too much for him, period.

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Don't see how Batman will survive Venom (let alone beat him).


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Actuallf if you wanna know the truth i believe that Batman gets passed all of his students no problem. He taught them and one of the neat things about being a Master is you see how a person develops meaning you learn their lessons it's how an old master can beat his pupil even though the stident is more physiaclly gifted. Plus the villians he has fought before he knows how to take them down and as such he could probably take them down somewhat easily if hr knows that he is fighting them.


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The order is a little off on the gauntlet here. I have reservations about him getting past Batgirl. No way he's getting past Shiva after days of non-stop fighting.

As for his students, Batman didn't actually do much training of Batgirl and Robin. Batgirl was trained by her father, and Robin went out and trained with the people who trained Batman...and then some. Between the two of them, Batman is going to be surprisingly worn out. He gets past Batgirl on guile alone.


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The current Batgirl is actually Batman's martial arts superior. If he wins, it's due to being too tricky for her. I don't know if he'll win, but for the sake of not having him lose at the beginning, we'll say he does.

He'll make it through Robin pretty easily, as the current one is more of a detective prodigy than a physical prodigy like Grayson is; it's taken Tim a lot more effort to gain the skill he has now. I think Man-Bat and Clayface can wear a non-prep Batman out pretty fast. He might have the strength to continue onwards and, though doubtful, maybe beat Nightwing out, just barely. But he'll fall at Shiva. She's already too much for him, period.


very good analysis

and the batgirl I had in mind is the much weaker version

as for losing to Shiva, I disagree

I gave him a 24 hour rest, but batman only sleeps 3hours to get a full 8 hours rest due to his meditation techniques, so I don't see any serious damage before Shiva-level and think Bats will be able to take Shiva out


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Actuallf if you wanna know the truth i believe that Batman gets passed all of his students no problem. He taught them and one of the neat things about being a Master is you see how a person develops meaning you learn their lessons it's how an old master can beat his pupil even though the stident is more physiaclly gifted. Plus the villians he has fought before he knows how to take them down and as such he could probably take them down somewhat easily if hr knows that he is fighting them.


I agree that individually Batman can take everyone on the list with the exception of venom (who I added just to give people pause before they blurt out that batman wins easily), but remember, this is a gauntlet and you have to factor injuries sustained in previous rounds and fatigue


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he gets a day's rest.

and he has his belt so its feasible.

batgirl will be overpowered by his strength
robin will be overpowered
bats will blind manbat with halon and smack him to the throat and crushes his windpipe.
night wing gets a few blows in but its not enough. bats is more skilled and stronger.
bats and shiva have similar skill, but hes stronger than she is and will overpower her.
killer croc will also get a face of halon. but bats would also gas him before risking to put him down.
bane is stronger when hes amped up. bats will go for some nerve strikes in bane's deltoids so that he cant move his arms and then bats will break banes knees whilst bane is struggling to get his arms to work.

azrael is a good fight. but hes not in bats league. bats's skill puts az down with some blows to the head. az may get in a few blows.

batman beyond: he is stronger but doesnt have batmans skill. batman will gunk up his eyes so he cant see and spray something down his throat

moon knight is stronger than bats depending on the moon cycle so he will use the same technique taht he used on bane. hed have to be fast though cause the knight is a dangerous foe. moon knight would definitely get some licks in.

daredevil. since dd's nose and ears are hyper sensitive, bats would tear gas him whilst at close range in melee combat to ensure he cant get away. with his nose messed up, bats goes sonic on him, and then beats him.

dd will land some blows as well however.


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The order is a little off on the gauntlet here. I have reservations about him getting past Batgirl. No way he's getting past Shiva after days of non-stop fighting.

As for his students, Batman didn't actually do much training of Batgirl and Robin. Batgirl was trained by her father, and Robin went out and trained with the people who trained Batman...and then some. Between the two of them, Batman is going to be surprisingly worn out. He gets past Batgirl on guile alone.


well, its not nonstop...he gets 24 hour rest after each round

plus, the batgirl I intended in this scenario is the weak inexperienced batgirl, i wouldnt have made the gauntlet so tough right at the beginning


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Actuallf if you wanna know the truth i believe that Batman gets passed all of his students no problem. He taught them and one of the neat things about being a Master is you see how a person develops meaning you learn their lessons it's how an old master can beat his pupil even though the stident is more physiaclly gifted. Plus the villians he has fought before he knows how to take them down and as such he could probably take them down somewhat easily if hr knows that he is fighting them.


The only problem with that is that the current Batgirl did not receive her training from Batman. But it doesn't matter anyway, because apparently this is the Barbara Gordon version.

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as for losing to Shiva, I disagree

I gave him a 24 hour rest, but batman only sleeps 3hours to get a full 8 hours rest due to his meditation techniques, so I don't see any serious damage before Shiva-level and think Bats will be able to take Shiva out


They might not leave him majorly impaired, but they'll leave some sort of mark, perhaps a slight injury. However, Shiva is already Batman's superior by far in the unarmed arts and he'd be hard pressed to beat her if he came in as fresh as the morning dew.

In any case, if he did beat her, she'd hurt him bad enough so that Waylon Jones/Killer Croc would drop him.

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Originally posted by Solidus Snake
he gets a day's rest.

and he has his belt so its feasible.

batgirl will be overpowered by his strength
robin will be overpowered
bats will blind manbat with halon and smack him to the throat and crushes his windpipe.
night wing gets a few blows in but its not enough. bats is more skilled and stronger.
bats and shiva have similar skill, but hes stronger than she is and will overpower her.
killer croc will also get a face of halon. but bats would also gas him before risking to put him down.
bane is stronger when hes amped up. bats will go for some nerve strikes in bane's deltoids so that he cant move his arms and then bats will break banes knees whilst bane is struggling to get his arms to work.

azrael is a good fight. but hes not in bats league. bats's skill puts az down with some blows to the head. az may get in a few blows.

batman beyond: he is stronger but doesnt have batmans skill. batman will gunk up his eyes so he cant see and spray something down his throat

moon knight is stronger than bats depending on the moon cycle so he will use the same technique taht he used on bane. hed have to be fast though cause the knight is a dangerous foe. moon knight would definitely get some licks in.

daredevil. since dd's nose and ears are hyper sensitive, bats would tear gas him whilst at close range in melee combat to ensure he cant get away. with his nose messed up, bats goes sonic on him, and then beats him.

dd will land some blows as well however.


good scenarios, but I don't think you're factoring that as his enemies get stronger in rank, he's getting weaker and more injured...so by the time he's fighting azrael and beyond, he's far from peak condition


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hey...u just added clayface and venom.

venom would be tricky. if he knows venoms weakness, hed throw gasoline on him and set him alight or hit him with a charge of napalm.


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Yes but that was what i was hinting at he would make it to shiva without much problems if you ask me. The first five fights would be nothing more than some mild to moderate exorcise for Bats so he wouldn't be that fatigued. If he can get past Shive without much harm then he can probably make it to Moon Knight without much injuries but by then the constant fighting everyday would start to take it's toll. He would get to Dare devil though where this could be a good fight anyway iwould think Batman would take it at the end. Altough once he gets to Venom it's over he'll be to worn out to really be much of a challenge for Venom. In fact Batman would have to be at his best to have even a chance at all.


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good scenarios, but I don't think you're factoring that as his enemies get stronger in rank, he's getting weaker and more injured...so by the time he's fighting azrael and beyond, he's far from peak condition


he gets 24 hrs rest. he can do it with ease.


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The only problem with that is that the current Batgirl did not receive her training from Batman. But it doesn't matter anyway, because apparently this is the Barbara Gordon version.



They might not leave him majorly impaired, but they'll leave some sort of mark, perhaps a slight injury. However, Shiva is already Batman's superior by far in the unarmed arts and he'd be hard pressed to beat her if he came in as fresh as the morning dew.

In any case, if he did beat her, she'd hurt him bad enough so that Waylon Jones/Killer Croc would drop him.


Agreed. I don't think he'd get past Shiva, but if he did, he'd be in NO condition to get past Killer Croc.


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