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Champion vs Magneto , Thor

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Champion wins. 9/10

(see, if I were REALLY a Mags fanboy, I wouldn't have said that, would I?)


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I know Champion is supposed to unbelievable Hardcore but i cant see him winning these guys? Where did this team p come from its a bit Random ? cool

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There's not a lot Magneto can do to Champion - Champion, if I recall correctly, like all Elders, has surpreme molecular self-control. So Mags can't tear him apart. He doesn't need to breath, he doesn't bleed or anything like that, so Mags can't do any of his usual tricks. Magneto is relatively worthless in this fight. And Thor would get owned by himself.


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"There's not a lot Magneto can do to Champion - Champion, if I recall correctly, like all Elders, has surpreme molecular self-control. So Mags can't tear him apart. He doesn't need to breath, he doesn't bleed or anything like that, so Mags can't do any of his usual tricks. Magneto is relatively worthless in this fight. And Thor would get owned by himself."

How powerful are Magneto's gravitaitonal Powers? Can he create a fully powered black hole (E.G. one on the scale of a collapsed Super Massive star) If so, I seriously can't see Champion Winning this. Maybe Thor can use the power of Moljnir to enhance Magneto's powers.

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"There's not a lot Magneto can do to Champion - Champion, if I recall correctly, like all Elders, has surpreme molecular self-control. So Mags can't tear him apart. He doesn't need to breath, he doesn't bleed or anything like that, so Mags can't do any of his usual tricks. Magneto is relatively worthless in this fight. And Thor would get owned by himself."

How powerful are Magneto's gravitaitonal Powers? Can he create a fully powered black hole (E.G. one on the scale of a collapsed Super Massive star) If so, I seriously can't see Champion Winning this. Maybe Thor can use the power of Moljnir to enhance Magneto's powers.

black hole?

Magneto will get knocked out, His powers effect small scale (comparing to high cosmic beings )

Champ has Dealt with them, and champ has death with matter manipulator as well.

Thor will amp Magneto? Why Thor has a lot more firepower than magneto


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Champ has Death? Where? Is he boning her like Thanos?

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Champ has Death? Where? Is he boning her like Thanos?

sorry , cham has dealt with cosmic level before

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Champ has Death? Where? Is he boning her like Thanos?

Thanos is boning death

can you prove scans of this? laughing


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"black hole? "

I haerd that Mags had had a power up and that during a recent fight he had created a black hole? If im incorrect sorry for sounding Like such a Retard.

Gravatational Powers are Linked to time aand Space and therefore have some form Fundamental control to Energies. In the real world any way, but this is the comic universe where science doesn't apply so who cares.

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Thanos is boning death

can you prove scans of this? laughing


no. sad

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no. sad

Prove = provide

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Prove = provide

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"black hole? "

I haerd that Mags had had a power up and that during a recent fight he had created a black hole? If im incorrect sorry for sounding Like such a Retard.

Gravatational Powers are Linked to time aand Space and therefore have some form Fundamental control to Energies. In the real world any way, but this is the comic universe where science doesn't apply so who cares.


You're correct, he has created a blackhole before (well, wormhole anyway). But I don't think that's going to be enough. Champion is an Elder of the Universe - he's too many steps above both Magneto and Thor. They can annoy him, but I can't see it going much farther than that.


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"You're correct, he has created a blackhole before (well, wormhole anyway). "

Wormholes and Blackholes are a bit Different, but who cares. I cant stand Champion and I would love see him loose, but unless Thor transporting him to LImbo = a Win, Champ wins this Fight.

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Not too different. A wormhole is a blackhole with a white hole for an exit. The science is the same. If Mags wanted a black hole instead of a wormhole, he'd just not put an exit there. Or make the exit the nearest sun.


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"Not too different. A wormhole is a blackhole with a white hole for an exit. The science is the same. If Mags wanted a black hole instead of a wormhole, he'd just not put an exit there. Or make the exit the nearest sun."

Not necesserily. One can use a black hole as a wormhole, but you can create one with out a black hole. In fact physicls predicts that Wormholes (on the size of the planck Length) are popping in and out of the universe all the time. They exist on the level of the quataum foam and zero point energy.

I think a worm hole or an Einstien Ronsen bridge can be defined as a loop hole in space time joined together by a higer dimension. Im not too sure about this though, the phsyics is verry complex.

I think White holes are only Theoretical (E.g. not one has been observed). Mind you this is the same about wormholes.

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You can't create a wormhole without a black hole, you can create a black hole without a wormhole. The physics of the opening are exactly the same, the only difference is that the theoretical white hole, which completes the wormhole, is the exit for the items that enter the black hole. Other than that they are the same. I've never seen research to suggest that a wormhole has an opening that is any different than a black hole...the only difference is that it's generated differently (collapsed star vs. unusually dense area that causes a space/time collapse). The causes are different, but the effects are the same.


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You can't create a wormhole without a black hole, you can create a black hole without a wormhole. The physics of the opening are exactly the same, the only difference is that the theoretical white hole, which completes the wormhole, is the exit for the items that enter the black hole. Other than that they are the same. I've never seen research to suggest that a wormhole has an opening that is any different than a black hole...the only difference is that it's generated differently (collapsed star vs. unusually dense area that causes a space/time collapse). The causes are different, but the effects are the same.


Sorry dude you can theoretically create a wormhole without a black hole. Physics predicts that wormholes are continually being created all the time, Just on a truly miniature scale. And none of these temporal wormholes are being created by back holes. If one had a significant amount of Negative energy one could increase these wormholes to the size of a human (note that this is nearly practically impossible, especially seeing that Negative energy is theoretical).

It is also predicted that if you where able to create a atom smasher that could duplicate the energy's on a Planck scale, (this is the point when all the fundamental forces of the universe become united) a wormhole would probably occur.

You can also create a wormhole by using a significantly substantial amount of energy to punch a hole through the extra dimension of space time(although this is similar to a black hole, this might be the same thing). You need Negative energy to keep this open as well.

There was also a theory about speeding up Neutron stars to make create the necessery space warpage, ut i dont really no enough about this, although it doesn't include a black hole.

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Magneto and Thor are out of thier league here.

Champ's an Elder, and there is no way these two can beat him without banishment.

He eats them both in h2h, easily.

And I'm pretty sure Champ can break Magneto's shield, he once smashed a planet in half accidently.


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