__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Why do people think Darth Vader can stand up to near gods? Seriously. Vader wouldn't be able to concerntrate long enough to do anything before Supes would tap him in the back of the head. Knocking him out. If he's lucky.
First of all, Vader is alot faster than any of you think. He has force speed, which augments all of his movements, to the point of allowing him to move at speeds above the speed of light. Proof? We see him and many other Jedi able to deflect lazers all of the time on all sides. And lazers, by definition, are as fast as the speed of light. Superman rarely even moves at the speed of sound. He wouldn't know what hit him.
Secondly, the lightsaber would more than easily cut through Superman. Are any of you aware that blast doors and blasters are in the range of gigatons and megatons in the starwars universe? A blast door itself is around 1000 megatons or gigatons, yet in Episode 1, we see quigon easily piercing through one with his lightsaber. So that drops any argument about Superman not being affected. Whereas in Kingdom Come, we see superman draw blood from a friggin sword. In DKR, we see Supes nearly killed by a mere concussion from a nuke. Sliced, diced, filletted. Superman would be dead meat.
Third, the force would work on Supes. We have the remember that the force has the nearly the same properties of magic, which has costed Superman many battles. He is always beaten by magic. Heck, Vader wouldn't even have to be in the same room to beat Superman.
He could force choke him in the comfort of his favorite chair, with Superman in his sites, via holo net, just as he had done in the empire strikes back.
Fourth, even if Superman's will were so great, Vader could more than easily break it with the force power known as Battle meditation. It would reduce Supes will to 0, while increasing Vader's by 100.
Lastly, Jedi are able to see into the future. Vader would have predicted the fight, thus would already be prepared. He'd just send an armada to earth, and capture lois lane. Or he'd have Boba fett steal a kryptonite shard, and have him bring Superman's head back on a platter About the mind trick: Poison effected Superman controlled Superman's mind with her charms during hush, whereas Batman(a mere human) has resisted them in the past. So a Jedi mind trick would more than easily effect Superman.
Vader would destroy Superman, easily.
Last edited by Dark-Kenshin on Feb 21st, 2006 at 08:05 PM
As for the lasers, deflecting them has more to do with timing rather than moving at light speed and it has never been stated that blasters in the Starwars universe move anywhere close to lightspeed (if they did you couldn't track them across the damn movie screen). The light saber might cut Superman but before Vader can even think about using it, Superman will have shoved it up his ass. Superman has been against top level telepaths and telekentics (ones a lot more powerful than Vader) and has done fine.
Lasty, the only advantage seeing the future is that it will allow him to see his own death.
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Last edited by TheKahn on Feb 21st, 2006 at 08:13 PM
Dude, EVERY hero in Marvel and DC dodges lasers. So does this make them faster than the speed of light ?
Speculation. You got any proof ?
The Force has nothing in common with magic. Again, speculation. And it's a HUGE misconception that Superman is weak to magic. He isn't. He just hasn't any special protection for it. There's a difference.
Bollocks.
Now Vader is a jedi ? And can see in the future ? Too bad all those dead Jedis in ROTS didn't see it coming...
Read it again, what you just wrote. Sounds stupid, doesn't it ?
__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
That has nothing to with moving at the speed of light , it's pre-cog.
More then likely for dramatic effect or Pis , The lightsaber may scratch or scorch supes. But slice him in half with no resistance...not happening . His bio-forcefeild alone should block it .
Bullshit , magic affects superman in the same way it affects a normal human. The force is a quasi telepathic power endowed by a semi-mutation. Their is nothing magical about the force in the slightest.
That was only created for a game and was a half assed attempt at explaining why no one ran in the battle of endor.
Jedi see into the future about five minutes ahead at best. The only other pre-cog shown is hazy at best.
And the only reason batman resisted and not supes was because of bat's jobber aura
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