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Horrificus
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Juggernaut vs. Validus

They wake up on the moon, look at each other, and decide they don't like each other.

It is that simple.

Who wins, and why?

Mar 22nd, 2006 06:19 AM

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grey fox
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Validus....validus.... Isn't that Mon-el ?

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Mar 22nd, 2006 06:38 AM

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Validus....validus.... Isn't that Mon-el ?

No, but from what I understand, it took Mon-El, the and a couple other Kryptonian types to beat him. I don't know much about him, except he is supposed to be one of the most powerful beings in the galaxy.

Mar 22nd, 2006 06:46 AM

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He was the Mangog of pre crisis DC. Possibly even more.

Mar 22nd, 2006 09:19 AM

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grey fox
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Shit , mangog as in the ugly looking thing that thor usually smacks around ? The thing that feeds off of hate/fear/whatever the hell it is .

If so then jugg's takes a battering but obviously doesn't die.

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Mar 22nd, 2006 02:25 PM

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Validus 10/10. I'm not sure if Validus is strong enough to kill the Juggernaut, but there's no way he'd even feel the Juggernaut's punches.

My guess is that Validus would prove that the Juggernaut's invulnerability has a limit and knock him into a coma. I doubt he could kill him though.

Mar 23rd, 2006 11:55 AM

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Putar
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that is doubtfull considering war hulk couldn't even make the guy bleed let alone go into a coma.

Mar 23rd, 2006 12:00 PM

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Juggy would get tossed.Kinda like what Gladiator did to him in that X-Men cartoon,only farther.

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that is doubtfull considering war hulk couldn't even make the guy bleed let alone go into a coma.

Validus was a lot stronger than planet-moving Pre-Crisis Superman. The Juggernaut doesn't have a lot of high-end strength feats, but if he can lift a mountain that would still make Validus somewhere between a billion and a trillion times stronger.

I know that lifting feats don't exactly translate into punching power in comics, but they're not even close to being the same strength class.

Mar 23rd, 2006 03:12 PM

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Validus was a lot stronger than planet-moving Pre-Crisis Superman. The Juggernaut doesn't have a lot of high-end strength feats, but if he can lift a mountain that would still make Validus somewhere between a billion and a trillion times stronger.

I know that lifting feats don't exactly translate into punching power in comics, but they're not even close to being the same strength class.

Validus is something special.

I also am a Juggernaut fan. A battle between these 2 would probably bring out the true powers of Juggernaut. He would need them.

Validus is beyond War Hulk, or anything else. He is on the level of Mangog, maybe Ymir or Klaatu.

Even if Juggs won, he would definitely come out with his armor banged up, and with us knowing his true limits.

Mar 23rd, 2006 03:22 PM

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Validus is something special.

I also am a Juggernaut fan. A battle between these 2 would probably bring out the true powers of Juggernaut. He would need them.

Validus is beyond War Hulk, or anything else. He is on the level of Mangog, maybe Ymir or Klaatu.

Even if Juggs won, he would definitely come out with his armor banged up, and with us knowing his true limits.

In otherwords, he loses.

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Horrificus
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In otherwords, he loses.

Probably. From what I read, Validus is unbelievable. Even by comic book standards.

Mar 23rd, 2006 03:58 PM

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Validus....validus.... Isn't that Mon-el ?

That's Valor.

Val is one of the top physical powers in comics, easily. Superboy and Mon-El claimed to be gnats in comparison and these were guys who moved planets (plural) casually. Only person in DC who was ever physically stronger was The Omega.

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Horrificus
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Nope.

I'm talking about Validus. Check out the links.

Mar 23rd, 2006 06:31 PM

Horrificus
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Hoo Haa!

Mar 24th, 2006 12:42 AM

HaSon
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Originally posted by Horrificus
Nope.

I'm talking about Validus. Check out the links.

I know...

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Mar 24th, 2006 01:00 AM

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Were talking about the Validus that owned PC Supes right? Juggernaut gets TOSSED! All the power of Cytorrak, Trion, skyfather etc etc etc aint gonna help him here.

Validus 10/10

Mar 24th, 2006 01:01 AM

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Horrificus
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what exactly did he do? who is he? i saw that he is very powerful, but i dont know much more.

Mar 24th, 2006 01:26 AM

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what exactly did he do? who is he? i saw that he is very powerful, but i dont know much more.

Shattered a mountain of Inertron (think Adamantium)
Could survive in anti-matter
Picked up Mon-El and threw him through the planet they were standing on
Picked up Superboy and threw him out of the solar system
KO'd Mon-El and Superboy with one hit each
Capable of going solo against the Legion

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