While I like Reed as much as any person, I cannot fathom how anyone can say that all he needs is a single day to beat a guy who owns the Surfer regularly. This is why I can't stand prep time: it just makes for very lazy debates. If you can't or won't explain exactly what a person would do in their designated time to prepare that would enable them to win, then what is the point of even making a post?
Now I don't mean to direct this at anyone in particular as this is a rather widespread problem in threads involving Reed, Batman, Dr. Doom, and others. The phrase "he'll find a way to win" usually gets thrown around and people act as if that is some kind of startling revelation that once spoken will instantly led to enlightenment for all those debating and people will realize just how easily Batman could beat Galactus with 10 minutes of prep or something equally ridiculous.
Now to the fight at hand, the only chance the team has, imo, is the Godwave. Other than that, the team loses 10/10.
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Yeah, Godwave owns just about everything. But aside from that, Validus, do you think WW's weapons could put her at or near Odin's level? (this is a genuine question as I'm not extremely familiar with most of her weapons save the lasso and tiara)
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I also have a question and I hope someone can help me with it...
Could someone please explain to me what exactly is the "Godwave"? I see this quite a bit, but I don't know exactly what it is talking about...I would like to know about this. Could someone tell me what it is and how it works, where it came from, what it can do, etc.....I appreciate it very much....Thanks.
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To be honest, I've been questioning that Odin "feat..."
Just how much power did Odin really use?
For example...
Thor used a godblast on Galactus, and Galactus fled....
Yet Odin couldn't put down Thanos with blasts?
Thanos > Galactus?
It doesn't add up. Odin couldn't have been taking him too seriously.
Also, Diana is NOT SS, she will not stand there like a fool, or come unprepared with a day of prep. You best best every magical item she has in her repetoire will be with her. In addition to Reed's tech (maybe something to enhance her own strength? and IW shields) they may be able to scrape a victory.
Ben and Johnny are fodder. Thanos 6-7/10.
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Well, feats involving Galactus are always a little suspect in my mind as there is the issue of his hunger affecting his power level.
As to the fight between Odin and Thanos, I tend to think Odin was taking Thanos very seriously (although I do not think there is enough evidence to disprove the opposite idea). While I do not think this was quite a match of equals as Odin appears to be in control of the entire fight, I think it a very good durability feat from Thanos that he lasted as long as he did in a fight that was destroying a good bit of Asgard and was claimed by Odin to be a worth opponent (fighting alone) and to be drawing on a source of energy similar to his own..
Now if the fight had continued in such a manner with Odin failing to put Thanos down with his "conventional" attacks, then yes I could see him using his ace in the hole and use his own versions of the Godblast (which would have quickly ended the fight though a K.O. or death on the part of Thanos). Again while I don't think that Odin was going all out in this fight and thus perhaps risking the lives of others in Asgard, I do not think he was pulling his punches either.
I also agree that Wonder Woman's magical artifacts offer the best hope of winning for the team as I highly doubt Reed can whip up a means to beat the Mad Titan in a day and that she could possibly do better than the Surfer typically does as she doesn't hold back as much in a fight. I can see the team winning a few fights, but I think Thanos, based on his feats, would win a majority (again, Godwave excluded).
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