Depends. If they're close, Batman can just knock him out with sleeping gas or a batarang richocheting off multiple targets, and thus no more duplication. If he's far away, then Batman will lose in a straight-up fight.
Batman almost always goes the physical route unless hes in a rush. Batrangs hitting anything that hits him would just make MM multiply. Besides he sent out all his dupes once to learn all they could (This seems to be the best explaination Ive seen for someone become Batman like {I mean 127 martial arts?! please....unless your multiple man } and so hes learned lots of martial arts, and would be a formidable opponent
Batman's a very intelligent adversary. He'd see Madrox duplicating and immediately try projectiles or gas or fog or things to take out Jamie before he dopplegangered too much (this only works if they're close range- like 10 to 15 feet or something). You mistake him for an idiot and that he'd braveheart-rush like Hulk. And also, the 127 martial art-thing isn't so perplexing once you realize that Batman is different from us; he's a lot smarter and works a lot faster than you or me. There are people whose memories are so great that they can recall an entire book, Scientists whose synapses work so fast that the answer comes to them with inhuman speed, and men who push 4 ton trucks with their earlobes. So you shouldn't say that it's impossible. Frankly, that explanation sounds a lot more plausible than a man who has an unexplained method to duplicate himself and somehow absorb memories of different accounts/existances and still survive when clones die.
Jamie wins 10/10. First there is absolutely no reason for Jamie to engage Batman in a fight until he has hundreds of dupes on his side. That being said, I could easily see Jamie running away from Batman creating dupes as he goes and having them run in a different directions with them doing the same thing. And given the rate at which dupes can be created I highly doubt that they will stay close enough together for Batman to take them all out with a gas attack. If Batman was able to ambush Jamie somehow then yes I could see him winning, but not with Jamie knowing the fight is coming.
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[QUOTE=6505756]Originally posted by TheKahn First there is absolutely no reason for Jamie to engage Batman in a fight until he has hundreds of dupes on his side.
Why do you say that? He may see Bats as just some guy in a bat suit and attack with just a few clones. He doesn't always fight with a bajillion clones, and he usually goes around with 10 to 20.
That being said, I could easily see Jamie running away from Batman creating dupes as he goes
If they're around to 10 to 20 feet apart. Then he's not going to get very far. Not far enough to duplicate enough.
and having them run in a different directions with them doing the same thing.
Won't happen if the fight stays concise and an explosive takes Jamie out. And what if Batman releases all kinds of gas? Gas moves in all kinds of directions so all the Jamies running in different directions would lose right there. Plus multiple gas pellets = omnidirectional.
And given the rate at which dupes can be created I highly doubt that they will stay close enough together for Batman to take them all out with a gas attack.
Well if they're bottlenecking in an alley, then they'd more than likely stay close together. And even so, if a projectile goes across the entire column of duplication, then all the Jamies will be knocked out. Or if he's duplicating in multiple directions, then an overhead shower of grenades could takem out.
The match isn't exactly 10/10, and I don't believe Batman would fight head-on anyway. But if he does fight "head-on", then he has a 4/10 chance to win against Jamie.
Given that by the forum rules each character has a "basic knowledge" (which is defined as what the general population of the other character's homeworld knows) of the other combatant, then Jamie would know that Bats is a member of the premier (and one of the most powerful) Superhero team in the DC universe. In addition with each character fighting to the best of their ability I see no reason why Jamie wouldn't create far more than 10 or 20 dupes for this fight.
Even assuming that they start that close, Jamie would still easily have enough time to create enough dupes to win. All he (and they) really have to do is snap their fingers or take a step and Batman would have yet another opponent. I think Black Adam has some scans showing just how fast Jamie can create his dupes.
If the fight takes place with the combatants relatively close together then if Batman tried to use either gas or explosives he would risk taking himself out as well. Now he does have a gas-mask in his utility belt if I'm not mistaken, but as there is no prep time stipulated then he would have to take the time to put it on after the fight has started. And as his only "chance" here is to take Jamie out quickly then this delay would be extremely dangerous on Batman's part.
How exactly does Batman win even 4/10 in a h2h fight against an army of opponents who gain another man every time Batman punches one of them?
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[QUOTE=6506089]Originally posted by TheKahn Given that by the forum rules each character has a "basic knowledge" (which is defined as what the general population of the other character's homeworld knows) of the other combatant, then Jamie would know that Bats is a member of the premier (and one of the most powerful) Superhero team in the DC universe.
In addition with each character fighting to the best of their ability I see no reason why Jamie wouldn't create far more than 10 or 20 dupes for this fight.
That's a whole lot of assumptions going on. "Basic knowledge" means he knows "of" Batman. By that, he probably thinks Bats is just a man in a suit, and would probably create 10 or 20, seeing as how he knows Batman is "human." And how would he know about the JLA? That's barely related.
Even assuming that they start that close, Jamie would still easily have enough time to create enough dupes to win. All he (and they) really have to do is snap their fingers or take a step and Batman would have yet another opponent.
No he wouldn't. If you're taking all of them out at once with several gas pellets, which would become an omnidirectional cloud of gas, he won't be duplicating anymore.
I think Black Adam has some scans showing just how fast Jamie can create his dupes.
I doubt those scans show you exactly how much time is being lapsed between the panels.
If the fight takes place with the combatants relatively close together then if Batman tried to use either gas or explosives he would risk taking himself out as well. Now he does have a gas-mask in his utility belt if I'm not mistaken, but as there is no prep time stipulated then he would have to take the time to put it on after the fight has started.
Are you kidding? It'd take like a second to whip out that gas mask while simultaneously throwing the pellets. Two seperate hands. Hell, he could even spray down the Jamie's with that adhesive he used on Superman or Flash Bang them, so the one second of lag-time would be insignificant.
And as his only "chance" here is to take Jamie out quickly then this delay would be extremely dangerous on Batman's part.
No it wouldn't. Superheroes can multi-task , ie. put on the mask and throw gas at the same time, or flashbang, then put on mask and throw gas, or spray Jamie with the adhesive he used on Superman, or use the grapnel guns to collapse sides of walls to cave in on Jamies.
How exactly does Batman win even 4/10 in a h2h fight against an army of opponents who gain another man every time Batman punches one of them?
Well, Batman isn't stupid enough to punch anyway. He's a lot smarter than Jamie. He'd do things like use the sorroundings, destroy entire buildings to cave in on the Jamies, gas the entire place, richocheting batarangs knocking out entire columns of Jamies, Flashbangs to distract them, slicing and dicing with his laser torch, and other ways of killing off the Jamies in a quick fight without resorting to stupidity.
Its very easy to get the dupes confused with the original Jamie. Secondly, the dupes can create dupes of themselves, so that makes it even harder to take out Madrox.
The guy who can memorize the book still has to read the book. And the scientist has to learn the answer from somewhere. Batman doesn't have telepathy. Someone has still had to teach him those martial arts. And it takes years to teach someone to be a true master of an martial art, EVEN if you only taught one move one time.
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} and so hes learned lots of martial arts, and would be a formidable opponent
If the fight takes place with the combatants relatively close together then if Batman tried to use either gas or explosives he would risk taking himself out as well. Now he does have a gas-mask in his utility belt if I'm not mistaken, but as there is no prep time stipulated then he would have to take the time to put it on after the fight has started. And as his only "chance" here is to take Jamie out quickly then this delay would be extremely dangerous on Batman's part. 
