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A loaded shotgun versus....

Ok , so heres the deal. A fully loaded shotgun (the most powerful version on the market) is aimed straight at these heroes heads and fired . Can they survive ?


  • Batman
  • Spider Man
  • Namor
  • Multiple Man
  • Aquaman
  • Blade
  • Wonder Woman
  • Wolverine
  • Hulk
  • Wendigo
  • Thor


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Assuming they cant dodge or block the pellets
# Batman- no
# Spider Man- no
# Namor- yes
# Multiple Man- no
# Aquaman- maybe
# Blade- no
# Wonder Woman- no
# Wolverine- yes
# Hulk- yes(wtf is Hulk here for?)
# Wendigo- yes
# Thor- yes


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Wolverine? I strongly doubt it.

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Their is no dodging or blocking , this is pure durability.


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Assuming they cant dodge or block the pellets
# Batman- no
# Spider Man- no
# Namor- yes
# Multiple Man- no
# Aquaman- maybe
# Blade- no
# Wonder Woman- no
# Wolverine- yes
# Hulk- yes(wtf is Hulk here for?)
# Wendigo- yes
# Thor- yes

Wonder Woman-no ?

Last time I saw her fighting Superman, he hit her with an almighty überpowerful uppercut, so strong and hard that she was flying through space, back to Earth. That's like 1000 times stronger than a shotgun.

And still, she can't survive an attack with a shotgun ?


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Of course Wolverine survives it. Actually, the bullets shouldn't even be able to pierce his skull.

Although WW's bones are denser, she'll definately feel it. She'd probably survive it though. She's been pierced before ya know?

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What about Batman? His mask is buletproof isn't it?


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Wonder Woman-no ?

Last time I saw her fighting Superman, he hit her with an almighty überpowerful uppercut, so strong and hard that she was flying through space, back to Earth. That's like 1000 times stronger than a shotgun.

And still, she can't survive an attack with a shotgun ?


It's part of her 'Trademark skills , lack of progression' thing. She can take a beating but bullets tear her to shreds.


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Originally posted by Tassadar
Assuming they cant dodge or block the pellets
# Batman- no
# Spider Man- no
# Namor- yes
# Multiple Man- no
# Aquaman- maybe
# Blade- no
# Wonder Woman- no
# Wolverine- yes
# Hulk- yes(wtf is Hulk here for?)
# Wendigo- yes
# Thor- yes


First of all, this is ridiculous. 2ndly, WW would of course survive. She only blocks bullets with her wrists because it's cool. She's bulletproof. And why do you have Batman on the list????


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What about Batman? His mask is buletproof isn't it?


Batman's face would be torn to shreds.

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First of all, this is ridiculous. 2ndly, WW would of course survive. She only blocks bullets with her wrists because it's cool. She's bulletproof. And why do you have Batman on the list????


It was ether him or deathstroke.....


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It was ether him or deathstroke.....


LOL, I didn't even realize that it was you that made this thread. Even pros make mistakes.

(Ponders in headwink I think it's high time we answer the age old question of what happens when a regular man gets shot in head with the most powerful shotgun on the market?

I'm just kidding grey fox. You are much more knowledgeable then me when it comes to the vs forums. I just think it's funny you of all people made this thread.


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LOL, I didn't even realize that it was you that made this thread. Even pros make mistakes.

(Ponders in headwink I think it's high time we answer the age old question of what happens when a regular man gets shot in head with the most powerful shotgun on the market?

I'm just kidding grey fox. You are much more knowledgeable then me when it comes to the vs forums. I just think it's funny you of all people made this thread.


Meh , we all need moments of Insanity .


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Wonder Woman is Not bulletproof; she has never demonstrated to be bulletproof (at least as far as I know; if someone has seen otherwise, please post pic). A shotgun blast to the head would hurt her, but she'd probably be able to survive it due to her overall strength and healing capacity (note I did not say healing speed, just her sheer ability to recover from profound wounds).

Though the whole concept is ridiculous upon close examination, WW can take a superpunch but not a bullet because the bullet generates a much higher force in p.s.i. But again, the whole punch-yes/bullet-no concept is ridiculous because Superman punches so hard, his strength more than compensates for the larger surface area of his fist. Wonder Woman should either be able to take both a superpunch and a bullet (which at this point in her history, would be the more logical course), or neither. The only reason she is still blocking bullets with her bracelets is because That is her signature move--she is trapped by her character concept.

As for blocking bullets because it's cool...please. The "demoralize opponents" reason is also ridiculous. Far cooler and more impressive it is to just stand there and take the shots than block them.

Neo: "Are you saying, I'll be able to dodge bullets?"
Morpheus: "I'm saying, you won't have to."


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Wonder Woman is Not bulletproof; she has never demonstrated to be bulletproof (at least as far as I know; if someone has seen otherwise, please post pic). A shotgun blast to the head would hurt her, but she'd probably be able to survive it due to her overall strength and healing capacity (note I did not say healing speed, just her sheer ability to recover from profound wounds).

Though the whole concept is ridiculous upon close examination, WW can take a superpunch but not a bullet because the bullet generates a much higher force in p.s.i. But again, the whole punch-yes/bullet-no concept is ridiculous because Superman punches so hard, his strength more than compensates for the larger surface area of his fist. Wonder Woman should either be able to take both a superpunch and a bullet (which at this point in her history, would be the more logical course), or neither. The only reason she is still blocking bullets with her bracelets is because That is her signature move--she is trapped by her character concept.

As for blocking bullets because it's cool...please. The "demoralize opponents" reason is also ridiculous. Far cooler and more impressive it is to just stand there and take the shots than block them.

Neo: "Are you saying, I'll be able to dodge bullets?"
Morpheus: "I'm saying, you won't have to."


No man........ While bullets can cause lots of psi trauma, they do not have a harder psi than a punch from Supes(lol). They are just deadly because they are sharper and and can stick into vital organs. Look, if she can survive an uppercut from Supes, she'd easily survive a bullet. If we're looking at psi only(lol), an punch from supes brings down a building, while a bullet puts a little dent in it. Sorry, but Supes fist is not proportionately that much bigger than a bullet to constitute it having more psi.


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No man........ While bullets can cause lots of psi trauma, they do not have a harder psi than a punch from Supes(lol). They are just deadly because they are sharper and and can stick into vital organs. Look, if she can survive an uppercut from Supes, she'd easily survive a bullet. If we're looking at psi only(lol), an punch from supes brings down a building, while a bullet puts a little dent in it. Sorry, but Supes fist is not proportionately that much bigger than a bullet to constitute it having more psi.


Let's keep in mind that a punch from Supes is completely fictional. If it takes down a building or (lol) punches thru time, it's becasue the writers decreed it so. A real-life projectile about the size of Supes's fist and forearm (and moving at about 5000 ft/sec) will Not bring down a building unless it has a very Very large warhead and hits a main support beam. Even then, it is doubtful.

As for bullets, their deadliness depends on the type of bullet. Some have tremendous penetration power (very high psi) and will go right through a car engine or through the side of a building (these actually would do less damage to a person than a slower slug). Others will enter a body and bounce of bones, ripping up organs and may eventually get lodged in flesh after they've lost momentum, after the damage has already been done.

Also, you wrote, "While bullets can cause lots of psi trauma, they do not have a harder psi than a punch from Supes," implying Supes' has a higher psi. But then you write, "Sorry, but Supes fist is not proportionately that much bigger than a bullet to constitute it having more psi," implying the bullet has a higher psi.

Whoops.

Lastly, anyone, please, show me one pic where WW has a bullet bounce off her skin, and I will happily stand corrected. I believe I even read once, where WW herself admitted (to Superman, no less), that bullets and arrows can hurt her because they are "sharper" (interestingly, a person can stab through a bulletproof vest because the sharper/smaller knifepoint--as compared to a bullet's nose--allows a higher psi).

As I said, WW's "pick'n'choose" durability is absurd but unfortunately there isn't much writers choose to do about it, trying to appeal to both sides of the fence: 1) having her as tough as Supes (and there is nothing wrong with that, in principle); and 2) keeping her vulnerable to bullets. Just basic character inconsistency.


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whoa, this guy just shut this whole thread down.

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Re: A loaded shotgun versus....

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Ok , so heres the deal. A fully loaded shotgun (the most powerful version on the market) is aimed straight at these heroes heads and fired . Can they survive ?


  • Batman
  • Spider Man
  • Namor
  • Multiple Man
  • Aquaman
  • Blade
  • Wonder Woman
  • Wolverine
  • Hulk
  • Wendigo
  • Thor


Batman- not likely. unless u refer to Batman Begins Batman, his cowl was made of kevlar reinforced graphite. but it would probably shatter at close range. so no.

spidey-nope. his only hope of survivin this is dodging it, like h always does. but he cant do that here.

Namor-probably

MM- dunno

Aquaman-yea
Blade- no
Wolverine- hmm, now this is a good one. because he has a healing factor and an adamantium skull. his face would probably be pretty messed up. with bits off tissue probably just drippin of the metal skull sick
healing factor isnt that strong. so no. probably not.

Hulk- yea

Wendigo-sure
Thor- oh yea.

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Batman - NO

Spider Man - NO

Namor - maybe

Multiple Man - depends which one of him you hit

Aquaman - yes

Blade - yes

Wonder Woman - yes

Wolverine - yes

Hulk - ofcourse

Wendigo - ofcourse

Thor - ofcourse


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Wolverine? I strongly doubt it.


Actually, Punisher has does this to him before. Blew his face off, but he was fine though.


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