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Phoenix Force (Jean) vs Abraxas (this is a serious thread)

I made this one only to counter the other garbage.

Let's debate now without children.


Anyone who spams this thread will be reported.


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Originally posted by Basti0n
no actualy Galactus and the FF defeated him.

Get off your lazy and most likely fat ass and read a comic relevant to the topic at hand, asll your giving is your unfounded opinion you developed using second hand info you got off of webpages.



Fantastic Four NEVER defeated Abraxas.

Galactus NEVER defeated Abraxas.

ONLY the Ultimate Nullifier (by DESTROYING the MULTI-VERSE) was ABLE to banish Abraxas.

Ok.

This ISN"T second hand info or from webpages,
this is from the actual Comic Book that my lazy ass decided to read and carve out for intransigent individuals.


This is Galactus defeating Abraxas
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oops...Uhh, sorry, That's the scan of Abraxas after KILLING a bunch of Galactuses.

Perhaps this Galactus defeated Abraxas
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I think not...

This is the Fantastic Four defeating Abraxas

my bad..That's the Thing getting BLOWN away by Abraxas as if he were pollen.
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I think it's this one.
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dag I did it again...Actually that's Reed and every other Reed in the Multi-verse DYING from a GESTURE made by Abraxas.

ONLY the UN can banish Abraxas so...

Abraxas only wanted the UN, so that No One in the "COMBINED UNIVERSES" could stop him.
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Abraxas Killed the Guardian of the MULTI-VERSE, Roma, with a kiss.
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Abraxas's very existence causes Reality to fall apart
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Originally posted by Basti0n
no actualy Galactus and the FF defeated him


Well....so much for ignorance.


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Now the way it REALLY went down

Abraxas was collapsing the MULTI-VERSE, he didn't need the UN to destroy a Universe at all.


Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.
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Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.
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YOU need to do some serious SELF-ADVICE Absorption.


Abraxas had the Ultimate Nullifier, Galactus took it from him...NOT by Force...by simply willing it....
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Because the Ultimate Nullifier is an ASPECT of Galactus
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And so Galactus has more control over the UN than anyone.

Then Nova rips through Galactus's ear and Galactus drops the UN into Reed's hands.
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Because Abraxas was collapsing the MULTI-VERSE, the only way to banish Abraxas and UNDO the Mis-alignement ACROSS the Multi-verse, was to DESTROY and REMAKE the a Multi-verse.
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Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was.
What was MISALIGNED? The MULTI-VERSE!


Here's the On Panel Proof, NOT wbsites and second hand info.

Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & Remake the Multiverse
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UN Destroys the Multiverse
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UN Remakes the Multiverse in an instant
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Originally posted by Basti0n
Get off your lazy and most likely fat ass and read a comic relevant to the topic at hand



You need to SIT down your highly physical ass and do some reading, before you ever post again.


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Reed Richards made it CLEAR, that the UN CAN & WILL Destroy the MULTI-VERSE.
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well no matter what you say this is just a spite thread against phoenix casue you cant handle that they made her more powerfull. and no matter what you say or do marvel will continute to make her more and more powerfull and theres nothing you can do to stop it.

LOL

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Originally posted by Basti0n
well no matter what you say this is just a spite thread against phoenix casue you cant handle that they made her more powerfull. and no matter what you say or do marvel will continute to make her more and more powerfull and theres nothing you can do to stop it.

LOL


Honestly how is She more powerful? I cant imagine Abraxas getting punked by magneto. I actually like Phoenix as a character more than Abraxas, but there is no way Phoenix has any chance against him.

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lol

Read X-Men 154
X-men Forever
and Phoenix: Endsong

She could wipe out the multiverse if she wanted.

She held the 616 universe in her hand and couldve wiped it out if she wished.

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One of these is going to get closed.


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hey its the truth read the issues

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hey its the truth read the issues
When?


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Originally posted by Basti0n
lol

Read X-Men 154
X-men Forever
and Phoenix: Endsong

She could wipe out the multiverse if she wanted.

She held the 616 universe in her hand and couldve wiped it out if she wished.
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Ah Denial I recognize it well


have you read those issues?

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Originally posted by Basti0n
Read X-Men 154

She held the 616 universe in her hand and couldve wiped it out if she wished.


Once again, please heed your own advice.

Your making an ass of yourself.


From X-Men #154

A Bacteria called Sublime, took over Hank's (Beast) mind, and a portion of Phoenix's power

Here Sublime thinks he will control creation with Phoenix's power and his own.
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But actually Phoenix was disinfecting the Bacteria while Sublime was killing other X-Men

Here Phoenix extracts Sublime from Hank's body
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Phoenix SAYS, "SURGERY COMPLETE"

Here Phoenix says, "Some KIND of Bacteria Colony gone rogue...I had to Amputate the whole Future"
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Jean is told, "Phoenix DISINFECTION Successful"

Jean then asks, "Now What"?


Ok,

We know that by Phoenix cutting off the Future, the Infection, which was Sublime, was destroyed.

And NOW, Phoenix is asking what's next? Or more specifically, "Now What"?

It tells Jean, "This is Now"

Phoenix asks, "Is this the Future"?
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It tells her, "You lost concentration, Shock almost killed it" (the Future)

It continues to say, "Patient will die unless internal heart damage repaired"

The "Patient" is the FUTURE still at this point.

Which is why Phoenix says, "But it didn't have to END like that."

It then says, "No, Turn around, No End yet, there, Turn, Here before always, HOSPITAL White Hot
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This is ACTUALLY the process taking place of a FUTURE being grown.

Jean loses concentration and she is reminded to "Now heal wound MAKE better FUTURE"
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"Heart got stuck", (Because she wasn't concentrating) Turn (some kinda White Hot Room code word for, "keep on fixing")

Now after that, we end up with this.

It tells Jean, "Telekinetic control of all those Atoms at once isn't as easy as it sounds in training, NOT even for a White Phoenix of the Crown..."
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"Telekinetic control"?... of WHAT Atoms?

The ONLY action I've seen, is A Future being grown.

It's actually talking about the FUTURE.

This leads to this, and as you can read, has nothing to do with the former.

It tells Jean, "It lost it's parents when Unity broke out across the Megasystems"
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Phoenix is CLUELESS as to WHAT this is, or WHAT to do with it.

Jean says, "Did I have to FIX something that was dying? What is it?"

It tells her, "A badly wounded Orphan Universe...Phoenix work"

What the hell does that mean?....Jean Grey is just as LOST as I am.
"But...but WHAT's that supposed to mean?
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It TELLS Phoenix WHAT that means,
"That Henry's heart broken, that Scott succumbs to loneliness", ect..ect..

THAT'S WHAT that meant ALL this time?

I thought it was an injured Universe she was to heal, but EVIDENTLY NOT.


It continues in the next post....


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Continues...


So now I understand why this joker says, "if you want IT to GROW a New FUTURE to replace the one you cut away"
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He also says, "And they said I was to tell you to HURRY"
Implying she can't do this AT WILL, but with in a TIME LIMIT.

He also says, "If it was me, I'd let it DIE"
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I was fooled into believing he was talking about the Orphan Universe", but in fact he's talking about the Future Phoenix wants to replace it with.

So Phoenix decides to give it a different Future
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"Live Scott"


Now how did she do that?...How did Phoenix ALTER the Future?

Did she snap her fingers and it happened?...NO

Did she think it and it happened?...NO

Did she speak it into happening?...NO

She actually went to the past and forced Scott to be with Emma
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In order to prevent the events of "Here comes tomorrow"


No more Phoenix reforming Universes in the hand claims. Thank you.


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So how powerful is Mr. Master's Phoenix?


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Originally posted by Basti0n
X-men Forever

She could wipe out the multiverse if she wanted.


From X-Men Forever

X....let me break it down for you.

Scan 1:
Here Eternity is explaining to Jean how the Universe works and how it has lead to us....Already proved this many times over...Phoenix is the SPARK that ignites the natural Big Bang of a Universe, which ends life and begins life in said Universe.
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Phoenix is NOT the Big Bang and the scan clearly tells us the Celestials SEEDED the Universe with Creation and the Celestial were created by Eternity.

Scan 2:
Ok, here Eternity says, "like Galactus was the sole survivor...so shall Humanity Begin the End, End the Beginning."

NOTHING about Phoenix.

"Oblivion will embrace all...creation will Renew itself"...(no need for Phoenix)
"And therein lies the Stranger's conceit"...

Ok, I'm sure you see now that Stranger wants to be able to do..what Humans will be able to do one day.(Which is WHY they are BOWING to HIM in the scan...because one day WE(Humans)will NOT need Abstracts or even LT...they will be as NOTHING to US(Humans).
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"He plans to spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos."

How does he PLAN to do that?....You said it was with the Phoenix Force Power.

But I think not.

Scan 3 & 4:
The Stranger was going to use 5(FIVE)individuals to accomplish his "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"

Marko, Jean, Iceman, Toad, Mystique.
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More Proof it was FIVE individuals the Stranger was going to use to "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"...NOT Phoenix...NOT PHOENIX AT ALL....Jean didn't even have the Phoenix Force during this time.
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"To pluck FIVE representative Earthlings to SERVE as his Evolutionary Vanguards"

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Originally posted by Validus
So how powerful is Mr. Master's Phoenix?


She's a Universal power, that can not destroy, remake or create a Universe.


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So how powerful is Mr. Master's Phoenix?

Nice one...laughing out loud


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She's a Universal power, that can not destroy, remake or create a Universe.

Interesting. Who's about the top person she could take one on one?


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Ah Denial I recognize it well


have you read those issues?


Living Tribunal's little burning canary.
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"The Phoenix KNOWS the Tribunal will NOT allow it...
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Now isn't that sweet.


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