Oh Quasar. He makes shields that stood up to Phoenix, Thanos, Maelstrom.
Meaning Thor isn't hurting Wendell Vahn. (I think that was his name, long time since I read quasar)
Wendell does not restrain himself to earth. For example he has an energy latice surrounding earth that allows him to know whenever any object enters Earth's solar system.
His bands (as shown when silver surfer was the keeper) can create varying types of energy, including the kind Galactus feeds upon.
His bands also allow him to absorb various types of energy.
His bands allowed him to absorb and contain a cosmic entity (Ego)
Quasar wins 8/10
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
No offense bran, but his attention wasn't on the dome, it was on Pip when they blasted out of it. And it wasn't just thanos, it was at least warlock too. you can see the energy emanating from warlocks gem.
And anyshield that can take a hit from Thanos... and not go down for a while...
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
1) Mjolnir can return from anywhere.
2) Thor doesnt need the hammer to fry Quasar with magically induced lightning against which Quasar is, in his own words, "useless".
3) Thor doesnt need the hammer to crush Quasar's skull the way he crushed Quasar's energy sphere.
Can Quasar maintain permananent shields in multiple dimensions simultaneously? In any case, why would mjolnir's movements be restricted by the field? Mjolnir can always return from wherever it goes and if the shield is around it, it will just bring the shield back as well. Of course, the simplest way to disable the shield is to kill quasar, something Thor can do with a thought by bringing down lightning. Being an actual god and as such being literally one with the forces of nature, Thor doesnt even need to say "shazam". It just happens as casually as you or I lifting a middle finger.
Meh. Even Thor has been mindcontrolled by magic before. I notice a mjolnir throw almost, but did not break, a "light" shield from quasar.
a force bubble created by Quasar took all of Eric masterson's strength to break, and during that time, quasar didn't even attack him.
That fight does not show Quasar beaten by Eric, it shows his failsafe restoring his mind to normal.
Quasar has been shown to steal the power cosmic from surfer.
Quasar contained binary in a energy bubble.
Quasars shield took hits from Hulk, Thing Hercules, iceman Cylcops... and more from the outside, Thanos etc. from inside. I don't think the fact that it broke by thanos's attack is a small question of quasar's power.
Quasar has also been shown to absorb the power of a star...
These are all regular showings... Thor has been beaten down and knocked down before.. but his one good showing against someone with a power gem... and you'll say his one good showing is his regular showing?
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
1) Quasar himself realized that he was being toyed with. He was trying to bring Thor down while Thor was trying his best no to injure him. As such do you really think Thor threw the hammer with anywhere near his full power? He was simply trying not to hurt Quasar while other's could come and solve the problem.
2) Quasar himself admits that Thor's magical bolt would have stopped him cold if the failsafe hadnt already. It's quite clear who comes out on top in this exchange. One trying to win, the other trying not to.
3) Absorbing a sun's power is nothing compared to Thor's god-force. Mjolnir can handle far greater energies than Quasar but even when reinforced it cannot handle the full power of Thor's godly essence.
4) Galactus has been beaten many times. Does that mean he cannot beat someone who has the power gem? Context is everything. Fact is Thor has been defeating Quasars and heralds for decades. That's no PIS, thats decades of marvel history.
1. Quasar did not say he knew he was being toyed with. He knew he was being distracted while Hercules went to go get help against Quasar. And he knew that if he didn't finish it quickly, he'd be overwhelmed. Ie. Quasar said when he pulled out the big sword that he was going to have to go all out. He even pulled back from using the nunchucks to kill thor, and asked that thor surrender rather than be defeated in that manner. in turn thor took the opportunity of Quasar talking to attack...
2. Actually Quasar does not say that he will be beaten by Thor's electrical bolt, but rather it would have awakened him from the magical influence.
3. Quasar has also redirected the energies of the phoenix against others. He could just as likely redirect the godforce back against Thor.
4. Thor fights the heralds of cosmic entities. Quasar has been fighting the cosmic entities themself... whats your point... the bands have been shown to stalemate Galactus, and defeat Ego.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
When Quasar was talking about toying with him, Quasar was talking about the fact that Thor was no longer blinded, and used the opportunity to seize the advantage. So Quasar had lost his.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
The Godforce has turned Galactus back as well. Quasar admitted that he is powerless when it comes to magic. That was Eric holding back against Quasar trying not to hurt him so what do you think the Real Thor using full power would do. Quasar loses
Ah, but even if that is the case, thor along with others tried to break the dome and couldn't.
So Thor has been shown that he can't break Quazer's dome.
And it's not like Quazer can't dish it out.
So as I see it, make a dome, even the real Thor is going to have a hell of a time breaking it. Then he can fire off some serious damage to Thor.
Quazer has some serious attacks, that I just don't see how Thor is going to last long.
He's got too many options, for even Thor to handle.
And he wasn't really paying attention to the people that were attacking his shield, so it also shows how much more powerful Thanos is to the others. Even if Adam did help, we've seen how much more powerful Thanos is to Adam.
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