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is juggernaut ultimate?

is he the most powerful marvel character if spectre and other cosmics doesnt count`?

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Spectre isn't Marvel to begin with. huh

And to answer your question, no.

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Hell no. It may seem that way because of his total indestructability. But he's not.

He is, however, one of the stronger ones.

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ok, who is better?


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Dr. Strange comes to mind.

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but dr. strange cant do a thing to juggernaut?


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He can send his ass to the negative zone.

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Doctor Strange could just remove the Juggernaut's invulnerability, then zap him.

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It's only phyiscal things that can't hurt Juggernaut (and whatever things like heat vision and such are), which leaves him open from attacks from things like magic and power cosmic.


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hmmm... so any "normal" fighters cant defeat him?


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Re: is juggernaut ultimate?

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is he the most powerful marvel character if spectre and other cosmics doesnt count`?



No juggernaut is not the most powerful, But he is Top Tier, If Juggernaut were to use all his power however, He would become a being with so much power he would be a Skyfather level Being.

Only things that can stop Juggernaut is Large doses of Magic and telepathy.

Yet the God blast is A magical attack and Juggs has fought Strange to a standstill before.

Weird.


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Re: is juggernaut ultimate?

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is he the most powerful marvel character if spectre and other cosmics doesnt count`?

#1, Spectre isn't no where near the strongest cosmics. Both Luficer can Michael Morningstar trumps him alone, any day.
And right now, it looks like Lucifer is losing to the Living Tribunal in the: Living Tribunal vs Lucifer thread.

The most powerful non-cosmic eternty would be: Pre-crisis Superman,I guess.

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NO hulk is way too stronger

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Not stronger than Pre-crisis Superman he arent.

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hmmm... so any "normal" fighters cant defeat him?
If by normal, you mean street-level type characters, then no. No normal characters can defeat Classic Juggernaut.

To KO Juggs, you must be able to:

1) Remove Juggernaut's helmet then hit him with a telepathic attack of significant strength.

2) Possess enough raw power to overwhelm the enchantments of Cytorrak. (The list of people who can actually do this is limited to the upper cosmic tier).

These are the only ways.

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so enough raw power can kill him?? goku would be able to punch him dead, then?


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so enough raw power can kill him?? goku would be able to punch him dead, then?



Not quite, no physical force no matter the amount exerted against him, can hurt Juggernaut, only Magical and Telepathy.


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ok. not energy, either?


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