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Jim Jaspers vs Hyperstorm vs Onslaught

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Onslaught hasent absorbed anyone

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The Hyperstorm from exiles wipes them out of existance.

I think even the one from FF would probably take this.


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The David Richards Hyperstorm would take this,

1) He has reality altering power as well.
2) he could just access Jaspers powers and use them against him.

Jaspers was killed off by a robot anways. And rachel destoryed that robot.


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Jaspers ftw.


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Originally posted by David_Richards
The David Richards Hyperstorm would take this,

1) He has reality altering power as well.
2) he could just access Jaspers powers and use them against him.

Jaspers was killed off by a robot anways. And rachel destoryed that robot.


and what makes you think he could possibly defeat ethier This Hyperstorm or Onslaught? Onslaught held the Phoenix force in his hand.

Dont just say ftw, be a real debator and provide evidence.


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What exactly did Hyperstorm display that was so magnificently grand in Exiles? Yay, he can destroy Sentinels.

Sabretooth killed the Hyperstorm in Exiles.

A universe had to be destroyed to stop Earth-238 Jaspers powers. Earth-616 Jaspers was an even greater power only killed by the Fury by way of a power and knowledge neither Onslaught nor Hyperstorm have.

Onslaught is an insect to the Phoenix Force, likewise to Jaspers of either Earth-238 or Earth 616.


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What exactly did Hyperstorm display that was so magnificently grand in Exiles? Yay, he can destroy Sentinels.

Sabretooth killed the Hyperstorm in Exiles.

A universe had to be destroyed to stop Earth-238 Jaspers powers. Earth-616 Jaspers was an even greater power only killed by the Fury by way of a power and knowledge neither Onslaught nor Hyperstorm have.

Onslaught is an insect to the Phoenix Force, likewise to Jaspers of either Earth-238 or Earth 616.
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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What exactly did Hyperstorm display that was so magnificently grand in Exiles? Yay, he can destroy Sentinels.

Sabretooth killed the Hyperstorm in Exiles.

A universe had to be destroyed to stop Earth-238 Jaspers powers. Earth-616 Jaspers was an even greater power only killed by the Fury by way of a power and knowledge neither Onslaught nor Hyperstorm have.

Onslaught is an insect to the Phoenix Force, likewise to Jaspers of either Earth-238 or Earth 616.


Actually your web based info is out of date, he didnt stay dead. hes part of the Phoenix force remember?

And in the issue of X-men before the Onsalught saga, he held the phoenix force in the palm of his hand.

Jaspers was killed by a robot that rachel summers was able to deal with easily.


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Actually your web based info is out of date, he didnt stay dead. hes part of the Phoenix force remember?
Really now? He was revived on panel? Do show.
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And in the issue of X-men before the Onsalught saga, he held the phoenix force in the palm of his hand.
Wherever GalacticStorm is he just spat out whatever he was drinking. Probably something alcoholic.
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Jaspers was killed by a robot that rachel summers was able to deal with easily.
Jaspers was killed because of transportation to the void between realities created by the destruction of Earth-238, interuniversal travel being one of the Fury's displayed abilities, something the Fury only knew coming from that reality - not common knowledge.

The Fury was recently shown to kill Rachel, Bishop, Cannonball and Nightcrawler in about a second.

Currently Mad Jim Jaspers is an amalgam of himself and the Fury.


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Hyperstorm takes this, he has 10x more power than both of these guys combined.


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I will get the scans as soon as I can get to a scanner again.

God I Love people who ask other people to do the research for them. Why not try reading exiles yourself? Its a fantastic book.

And again your web based info which im sorry is ethier usually wrong or leaves out allot. Rachel killed Fury by creating a black hole in his head.


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I will get the scans as soon as I can get to a scanner again.

God I Love people who ask other people to do the research for them. Why not try reading exiles yourself? Its a fantastic book.

And again your web based info which im sorry is ethier usually wrong or leaves out allot. Rachel killed Fury by creating a black hole in his head.
David Richards appears in all of about three issues of Exiles. Two of them as a child. The third as a flashback having been killed by Sabretooth. And showing nothing that would imply he'd get anywhere near Jaspers without being turned into a lamppost.

Rachel trapped an injured and jobbing Fury. With the help of a device, and Storm, Bishop, Sage and Wolverine. She created a singularity, the Fury adapted. They piled on more the Fury adapted. Jamie Braddock appeared conveniently enough. The Fury was pulled into the singularity and trapped.

Jamie Braddock recently appeared to the X-Men again. Brought forth The Fury and had it kill Rachel, Bishop, Cannonball and Nightcrawler in a single move because that's what it was created to do.


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And which issue did this happen in? casue as far as I know all those characters are still quite alive and well.

And no he is in more issues then that. Like I said try reading the comic itself.

And this is why i dont believe in this PIS crap, anyone will use it when they dont get their way.

Hyperstorm would simply take over Jaspers mind and access his powers as his own. Or he would simply will him out of existance since he has franklins powers.


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And which issue did this happen in? casue as far as I know all those characters are still quite alive and well.
Uncanny X-Men #472. Jamie Braddock brought them back.
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And no he is in more issues then that. Like I said try reading the comic itself.
Please do post these issues. Because I'm currently looking at Exiles #12, #13 and #59. The only three of which I know he appears. Blink makes a reference to the Phoenix, and her only encounter with the Phoenix at this point is in a reality where the Exiles killed Phoenix.
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And this is why i dont believe in this PIS crap, anyone will use it when they dont get their way.
Does it seem at all like I care that you don't like the forum rules?
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Hyperstorm would simply take over Jaspers mind and access his powers as his own. Or he would simply will him out of existance since he has franklins powers.
Sure he'll do that when it took ten years to destroy the Sentinels in his universe, when Jaspers of 238 required the universe to be destroyed to kill him, when Jaspers of 616 is more powerful than 238 and when the omniversal guardian stated 616 Jaspers at the height of his powers couldn't be destroyed even with the destruction of a universe.


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Uncanny X-Men #472. Jamie Braddock brought them back.
Please do post these issues. Because I'm currently looking at Exiles #12, #13 and #59. The only three of which I know he appears. Blink makes a reference to the Phoenix, and her only encounter with the Phoenix at this point is in a reality where the Exiles killed Phoenix.
Does it seem at all like I care that you don't like the forum rules?
Sure he'll do that when it took ten years to destroy the Sentinels in his universe, when Jaspers of 238 required the universe to be destroyed to kill him, when Jaspers of 616 is more powerful than 238 and when the omniversal guardian stated 616 Jaspers at the height of his powers couldn't be destroyed even with the destruction of a universe.


And again your wrong.

1)Wolverine killed Dark Phoenix, not the exiles in that issue.

2)And no the sentinels attacked him and he wiped them all out at once. It just took ten years for his powers to reach that level and he was still only a kid at the time.

3) As long as he has a mind this hyperstorm would win. if you read the issues it says if you put mags, xavier and the phoenix force together you only BEGIN to understand the level of David Richards power. It was also said that no one on earth had ever been born more powerfull then him.


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Question- Can males still wield the Phoenix Force? Or did Uncanny and the First Fallen arc retcon that?


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Question- Can males still wield the Phoenix Force? Or did Uncanny and the First Fallen arc retcon that?


Hyperstorm from exiles is part of the phoenix force as he is a child of it.


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Hyperstorm from exiles is part of the phoenix force as he is a child of it.


But the First Fallen arc occurs way after that...it could be a retcon..the Phoenix Force was described as female only...with the First Fallen it's male counterpart(And Jamie Braddock seems like he's the being who is suppose to be the so called vessel that manifests it)...it's possible that they just retconned that..and the Xavier PF thing...


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And again your wrong.

1)Wolverine killed Dark Phoenix, not the exiles in that issue.
I read it. I said Exiles for simplicities sake. They fought the Phoenix, and that's the only reference Blink has to draw upon.
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2)And no the sentinels attacked him and he wiped them all out at once. It just took ten years for his powers to reach that level and he was still only a kid at the time.
He destroyed 84 at one time during a final assault. Yay. A grown Richards "orchestrated the decade long systematic destruction of sentinel factories." Big woop.
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3) As long as he has a mind this hyperstorm would win. if you read the issues it says if you put mags, xavier and the phoenix force together you only BEGIN to understand the level of David Richards power. It was also said that no one on earth had ever been born more powerfull then him.
If you read the issue, you'll know that's a comment by Blink. It's not the editorial narration you're trying to imply. Again. Big woop. Nowhere does it say he's "a child of the phoenix force", nowhere does it say "he's part of the phoenix force."


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