Ok ok this is Wolverine WITHOUT his mutant powers/healing factor nor his adamantium(also no claws!), and Batman doesn´t have access to his utility belt or any other weapon/device/etc.
Mano a mano
They only have the experience they have gained through years of rigorous training.
Who wins?
Last edited by JuanJohnboy on Dec 7th, 2006 at 08:04 PM
Wolverine is wayyy older than Bruce, and I think knows Samurai as well as US Army and a whole other amount of stuff? I know Bruce knows a lot too but based on the claws (you said no adamantium, but not sure if you meant know claws period) id have to go with Logan.
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Batman is the premiere Hand to hand combatant in the DCU. Wolverine, well, isn't. At most I've seen him use moves from three or four different styles of martial arts. Batman has used at the very least ten from what I've seen.
There are plenty of people that are WAY more experienced than Bruce, and he still whips the shit out of them. Your logic is faulty.
I'd, honestly, put Batman's skill showings over Logan's.
Logan, however, has superior strength and speed feats. He'd win a majority due to that fact, coupled with the fact that he IS a skilled martial artist, even if he rarely shows it.
Question: Are his strength and speed feats due to any of his mutant powers? Such as his rage, does that have to do with his powers? If they are, wouldnt that negate the strength AND speed abilities?
As far as my logic being faulty, the question stated
"They only have the experience they have gained through years of rigorous training."
I thought that it'd be current Logan, stripped of his healing, adamantium, and claws.
His enhanced senses, strength, and speed DOES come partially from his healing factor.
However, his strength and speed also partially come from the chemical weapon X enhancements.
Though, as we are unaware of how much those alone would amp Wolverine, without his healing factor....
**** it, let's just take the match as skill vs. skill, then?
If that's the case, Batman wins a slight majority. I've seen better skill feats from Batman than from Logan, but Logan is still a premier martial artist.
Hrmm although I too have seen a lot more feats of Bruce in this matter, Id still have to say Logan based on the idea of him being around longer and learning from around the world.
Then again, Bruce is the same (or better, meaning he knows more arts) just without the age difference, correct?
Based on comic evidence alone, I go with Bruce. But like I said, with that aside, I go with Logan on this matter. IMO, theres no substitute for Life Experience. Gah, I think im getting off the topic
logan experience and skills have increased greatly since house of M due to remebering his memory.
Logan I would say in my opinion is more skilled then batman how ever I willing to say they are equals which would matter little since logan would still have the physical adavantage not to mention he would have enchanced durability making it much harder for batman to damage him.
I believe the intention of the thread was to compare their skills. Especially since we have NO idea how much the Weapon X chemical enhancements amped Wolverine's stats.
I would give Logan the advantage over Bruce skill wise. Logan has just way too much experience over Bruce. Bruce has had like thirty something years of training, and Logan has like 400 years of experience in multiple fighting styles. Logan just doesn't really use his training because he normally has his claws and healing factor, without them he'll use his training to the fullest and take out Bruce.
Batman pretty much always has to use his skill to beat opponents. Wolverine can rely on his healing factor at times. Batman wins based on skills alone.
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Last edited by Deathstroke on Dec 8th, 2006 at 12:49 AM
Not necessarily. Especially if he keeps the claws out and never retracts them. It would probably damage his body badly, but the body does heal itself as well. Not sure if it could handle it coming out like that, but its a possibility. The body would heal over it over time.
How about you read what the thread maker posted again...it says no claws...funny how you assumed he had claws before properly reading what it said at the top. Oh and Logan will kill Batman.
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