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Official Versus 100ton Class Breakdowns

okay, so the 100 ton class is very misleading. Why? Well the guy who lifts 100 tons is in the same category as the guy who lifts 100000000000 tons.

I created this thread because I don't want to see people pitting the guy lifting 100 ton against the guy lifting 100000000000 tons thinking they're both 100 tonners. So I just want to list a few guys representing the different ranges of the 100 ton class and hopefully we can estimate how much they lift.

To determine their lifting power, just post their highest cannon feats of power.

Iron Man: ~ 100 tons

Namor: ?

Thing: > ?

Colossus:?

Abomination: ?

Juggernaut: ?

Wonder Woman: ?

Thor: ?

Superman: > 1,000,000,000,000,000 tons AT LEAST

All Star Superman > 1,000,000,000,000,000,000

Silver Surfer: ?

Please provide estimates for these and any other well known 100 tonners. As you can tell, I hate the 100 ton class because guys like Superman really should not even be close to the true 100 ton weaklings.

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Originally posted by masterbruce
okay, so the 100 ton class is very misleading. Why? Well the guy who lifts 100 tons is in the same category as the guy who lifts 100000000000 tons.

I created this thread because I don't want to see people pitting the guy lifting 100 ton against the guy lifting 100000000000 tons thinking they're both 100 tonners. So I just want to list a few guys representing the different ranges of the 100 ton class and hopefully we can estimate how much they lift.

To determine their lifting power, just post their highest cannon feats of power.

Iron Man: ~ 100 tons

Namor: ?

Thing: > 1,000 tons

Colossus:?

Abomination: ?

Juggernaut: ?

Wonder Woman: ?

Thor: ?

Superman: > 1,000,000,000,000,000 tons AT LEAST

All Star Superman > 1,000,000,000,000,000,000

Silver Surfer: ?

Please provide estimates for these and any other well known 100 tonners. As you can tell, I hate the 100 ton class because guys like Superman really should not even be close to the true 100 ton weaklings.

We already know this.
Also, DC doesn't follow Marvel's system.

Also, Namor - 100 tons, Thing - 1000 What the f**k?

???

When has Thing been in the 1000's?

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We already know this.
Also, DC doesn't follow Marvel's system.

Also, Namor - 100 tons, Thing - 1000 ???

When has Thing been in the 1000's?

I have a ? for Namor since I'm not sure what he's capable of.

I'm pretty sure I've seen Thing lift things close to 1,000 tons in comics. But I'll make that a ? for now.

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I thought thing was around 80-90 tonish

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I thought thing was around 80-90 tonish

He was struggling with a sixty seven ton robot...

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Is this some kind of bad joke 100 tons characters without the hulk,hercules,gladiator

Hulk > 8,000,000,000
Hercules myth feat is considered cannon in marvel lifting the earth at least 1,000,000,000,000 or dragging mahattan

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Is this some kind of bad joke 100 tons characters without the hulk,hercules,gladiator

Hulk > 8,000,000,000
Hercules myth feat is considered cannon in marvel lifting the earth at least 1,000,000,000,000 or dragging mahattan

My list wasn't comprehensive, those 2 are definitely on the list.

See, this is what I don't get.

Why do guys like Hulk even struggle against Thing when Hulk is like 100,000,000 times stronger?

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Originally posted by masterbruce
My list wasn't comprehensive, those 2 are definitely on the list.

See, this is what I don't get.

Why do guys like Hulk even struggle against Thing when Hulk is like 100,000,000 times stronger?

Actually, Ben's always been near Hulk's strength. no expression

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An enraged Hulk has no known limit. He has lifted over 150 billion tons before

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An enraged Hulk has no known limit. He has lifted over 150 billion tons before

That's not even his best.

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ask one question is the thing capable of lifting atleast a million ton if not than he don't belong on this list

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I don't think the thing could lift 1 million tons

I think maybe 10,000 tons would be his limit

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In his younger days, Wonder-man held up a 50,000 ton press to save a man's life, but had to be pulled out. Thing is about Wondy's strength level.

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An enraged Hulk has no known limit. He has lifted over 150 billion tons before

He hasn't lifted 150 Billion tons. He braced that a mountain that weighed 150 billion tons which is far easier than lifting, and considering that the weight was spread over him and its pivital point. Besides it would have been impossible for him to do that. The mountain would have driven him into the ground like a hammer and a nail. Or it would have crumbled around him.

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In his younger days, Wonder-man held up a 50,000 ton press to save a man's life, but had to be pulled out. Thing is about Wondy's strength level.

Thing had trouble picking up Wondy's weight. Wonderdan picked it up with a hand, wrapped it around Thing, and threw it...

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Thing had trouble picking up Wondy's weight. Wonderdan picked it up with a hand, wrapped it around Thing, and threw it...

That was a little later on. They're supposed to be in the same ballpark, but Wondy is stronger.

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Class 100, doesnt mean a hundred literal tons. Means at least that.

Everyone of those, is top tier class except maybe Iron Man and definatly the Thing.

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A great strength system for dealing with this thread's issue is Yahman's. It is an ordinal, or ranking, system where actual tonnage values are of secondary importance. It seems best at accounting for inconsistencies in how a given character's strength is depicted. Unfortunately, it is somewhat involved and I can't replicate it here.

If you prefer a system where tonnage values are primary, there's my approach, which is designed for differentiating among the strongest characters. It's less encompassing but simpler to remember.

Characters can have Kiloton Level strength (lifting 1000 tons or more), Megaton Level strength (lifting a million tons or more) and Gigaton Level strength (well, you get the idea, and you can keep going with Teraton strength, Petaton strength, etc, etc).

Further, you can subdivide each level into Low, Mid and High. Eg: Low kiloton strength = 1000-9000 tons; Mid kiloton strength = 10,000-99,000 tons; High kiloton strength = 100,000-999,000 tons.

Still, Yahman's system deserves a close look...it's somewhere on an old thread dealing with strength ranking.

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