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Infinity Being vs. Heart of the Universe/Infinite

The original being who stood supreme through all realities takes on Thanos with the power of TOAA.


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The original being who stood supreme through all realities takes on Thanos with the power of TOAA.


Hmm...

IMO, stalemate.


The IB's power created all that is now, plus imbued the Infinity Gems with enough power to conquer "All the Realities" (according to Diana Darkshoppe of the Untraverse and Thanos of 616)

or atleast Two MultiverseS (according to the LT)

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THOTI, is the power of TOAA/God (what percentage? I don't know) but enough to absorb the LT like nothing, the LT, who manipulates MegaverseS in One Hand.

THOTI gave Thanos Omniversal Awareness.

THOTI fixed a Universal flaw, that would've destroyed All of Marvel.

THOTI, Re-Created the Prime Multiverse (IMO)




The Infinity Being would be above the LT, btw ....... imo smile


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THOTI, is the power of TOAA/God (what percentage? I don't know)
A fraction of infinity, is still infinity. ninja


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A fraction of infinity, is still infinity.


Perhaps, but in Marvel, there are different levels of Infinity as you know. smile


In this case, both powers are stated to be Infinite, in the true sense.

so stalemate, imo.


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Perhaps, but in Marvel, there are different levels of Infinity as you know. smile


In this case, both powers are stated to be Infinite, in the true sense.

so stalemate, imo.
Yeah I know,

Just had to throw it out there, [you know someone would have lol].


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Yeah I know,

Just had to throw it out there, [you know someone would have lol].


They always do.

How do you call this match brother G?


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They always do.

How do you call this match brother G?
Stalemate imo.


Break it down, and it's just two omnipotent beings duking it out.

[And in such a battle, there can be no true winner].




If I had to absolutely pick one to win though, I would lean towards the IB.


Thanos may have had the power of TOAA, but as you said, we don't know how much of "his" power T had...


What we do know about the IB is that it, for all intents and purposes, was God..... Responsible for creation as we know it in Marvel..... It also left behind the Infinity Gems too.


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Stalemate imo.


Break it down, and it's just two omnipotent beings duking it out.

[And in such a battle, there can be no true winner].




If I had to absolutely pick one to win though, I would lean towards the IB.


Thanos may have had the power of TOAA, but as you said, we don't know how much of "his" power T had...


What we do know about the IB is that it, for all intents and purposes, was God..... Responsible for creation as we know it in Marvel..... It also left behind the Infinity Gems too.


I agree.

That's what made me lean towards the IB aswell.

Not only did his power create everything,

it was also enough to empower the Gems with the capability to control everything. (nearly)


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I agree.

That's what made me lean towards the IB aswell.

Not only did his power create everything,

it was also enough to empower the Gems with the capability to control everything. (nearly)
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Infiniti was composed of the 7 original Infinity Gems -- Reality, Power, Soul, Mind, Space, Time, and the Dimensional (aka Ego).

If I remember the crossover correctly, Infiniti was near a space/rift that connected the 616 universe with the Ultraverse, hence the reality warping across 2 universes.

Eventually, the Dimension Gem was "eaten" by the other 6 Gems.

There is a possiblity that the Infinity Gauntlet is only universal.
Quasar said when fiering the Ultimate Nullifier that if he missed the universe would be flushed down the tube.

He also used to duplicate the universe with cosmic cube, so there were two 616 universes, it seems like the 616 gem's only works in the 616th universe as well.

Should be put up to debate, not tonight though, I have some scan's backing this statement up as well.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
it seems like the 616 gem's only works in the 616th universe as well.
Is that why the Gems were fully functional in the Ultraverse? roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Re: Re: Infinity Being vs. Heart of the Universe/Infinite

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Hmm...

IMO, stalemate.


The IB's power created all that is now, plus imbued the Infinity Gems with enough power to conquer "All the Realities" (according to Diana Darkshoppe of the Untraverse and Thanos of 616)

or atleast Two MultiverseS (according to the LT)

-------------------------------------------------------------

THOTI, is the power of TOAA/God (what percentage? I don't know) but enough to absorb the LT like nothing, the LT, who manipulates MegaverseS in One Hand.

THOTI gave Thanos Omniversal Awareness.

THOTI fixed a Universal flaw, that would've destroyed All of Marvel.

THOTI, Re-Created the Prime Multiverse (IMO)




The Infinity Being would be above the LT, btw ....... imo smile


I agree yes


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I agree with nearly everything Mr. Master says...i agree totally on this case


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THOTI wins instantaneously... IB is a flea in comparison.


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THOTI wins instantaneously... IB is a flea in comparison.
Against the reincarnation of the IB, [Nemesis].... I agree.


But I hope to God you weren't referring the the "true" IB just then. erm


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Against the reincarnation of the IB, [Nemesis].... I agree.


But I hope to God you weren't referring the the "true" IB just then. erm

IB=Nemesis...


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IB=Nemesis...
Yet,

The first/true IB >>> Nemesis. wink


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The original Infinity Being wasn't inhibited by the squabbling, sentient Infinity Gems. The Infinity Gems were just part of itself. But, once they were separate from it, they became sentient and had wills of their own.

Or so I understand it.


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The original Infinity Being wasn't inhibited by the squabbling, sentient Infinity Gems. The Infinity Gems were just part of itself. But, once they were separate from it, they became sentient and had wills of their own.

Or so I understand it.
There weren't even Infinity Gems back in the "true" IB's day.

Reality, Power, Soul, Space, Mind, Time... Were all part of the true IB.


It was only after he killed himself to create the MU as we know it today, that the actual Gems were formed.


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There weren't even Infinity Gems back in the "true" IB's day.

Reality, Power, Soul, Space, Mind, Time... Were all part of the true IB.


That's what I said. smile

"The Infinity Gems were just part of itself."

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It was only after he killed himself to create the MU as we know it today, that the actual Gems were formed.


Makes you wonder where Galactus came from. Marvel can't keep is origins straight.


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