Where to start? I know posts are limited, so I gotta make them count. I can't just make fun of my opponent like I normally do.
LP's top reasons why your plan sucks:
1. The flight ring is nulled, thus making your whole plan moot. Your character will be unable to use the flight ring to unleash its dormant speed. (which wouldn't have worked anyway)
2. You can't spy on me during friggin' prep. What the hell?
3. Zero is as good at finding weaknesses in others as KK is. It's his main power. So, meh...nothing to fear from your ability to find mine because I'll find yours quicker and I'll be in the air while doing it. In fact, I can create your weakness and then exploit it.
4. Zero is a better teleporter. Thunderstrike is as well. So...again, no need to fear your teleportation powers.
5. My character is pretty much immune to telepathy attacks due to the mace's protection and Zero's protection(the thoughts of Eric are turned into advanced computerized frequencies by Zero's power). They won't work on him. If Loki & Jean Grey can't, Psylock can't. So, again...no fear of your telepathy.
6. Just like Superman, Invincible is vulnerable to magical attacks. Indeedio he is. I gots a bunch of magical attacks. Weeeeeee...
Welllllllll, it looks like all of your offensive powers are useless and you can't fly. Your vulnerable to my two main attacks and you're only option is trying to defensively teleport all over the place, but my guy can float all day and blast you with multitude of long range attacks, your guy will get hit eventually. And then, my friend, you die.
EASIEST FIGHT EVAR!
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Last edited by long pig on Jun 13th, 2007 at 04:28 AM
2.) Nobodies spying on you, I'm using prep to analyze Dragon Man's body, like how you are using prep to analyze Invincible's.
3.) Even if Zero finds my weakness quicker (a weakness you don't have a scan for but I do) you're having ERIC MASTERSON (aka the least battle savy person in this tourney by far) exploit it. That right there is failure. Get in close, Meemoo kicks your ass, try to poke at a far, Meemoo uses Shadow Teleportation to get in close, and kick your ass. Either way it goes, your ass is kicked. You want to try playing hit and run tactics, Val Armorr will eventually cause ERIC MASTERSON to make a tactical error and kick his ass.
3.) Thunderstrike isn't even 1/5 as powerful as Mjlonir @ implying otherwise (which by the way, if you can prove, is an instant DQ, good day sir).
4.) Thunderstrike's teleportation sucks, by all means please use it (free nose shots for the win), Zero's is withheld within the battlefield which has shadows everywhere (created by breaking the ice to create divots which produce shadows), your teleportation isn't anymore potent then mine.
5.) Your mace adding protection against magicks and Jean Grey being unable to read the mind of a robot would be relevant, if there was a magician on the field and Eric Masterson wasn't human. But I guess you can argue that Val Armorr is a magician with his fists (which Masterson will learn the hard way) .
6.) Invincible being vulnerable to magic is hearsay, in no comic has Invincible ever shown to be any more vulnerable to magic then any other blunt force.
Invincible has, however demonstrated that he's at, at least 100 tons. Like when he moves this Statue of Liberty sized cinder block across a city, a feat that would have taken a entire civilization GENERATIONS (which is more like a few years to be fair) to accomplish
You couple that with the fact that Karate Kid by himself strikes harder then your amalgam does even after the 600x multiplier (which is more like 50 since TS is only 50 tons himself oh and 600x100 = 60,000 for the record)
and you have someone capable of striking with 8,000,000 tons of lifting force, and that's without exerting himself. Imagine what hundreds of these punches will feel like when one punch from Panther is enough to make your guy cry like this guy at the club
Masterson can resist magical hypnosis, oh noes what ever will I do? Use my non-magical telepathy.
The mechanical mind of Zero is immune to mind reading, oh noes what ever will I do? Use my telepathy on the human mind of Masterson.
Thunderstrike multiplies peoples power by 600 tons, even though the number is around 50, oh noes whatever will I do? Strike with my much higher physical strength.
Thunderstrike can throw his mace to travel really fast, oh noes whatever will I do I mean my Flight Ring which relies on it's elemental property to allow me to fly and only uses tech to communicate has been disabled? Attack with the battle speed of Ultra-Boy enhanced by the leg strength and similar body mass (so nothing is weighing me down) of Invincible http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y9...Scanned-12.jpg.
Eric Masterson is the battle savy veteran chosen to be the driving force of Long Pig's creation, oh noes??? Moer liek OH YES!
Invincible is extra vulnerable to magic, oh noes whatever will I do? O wait that's a lie. Lololololololol
Summary: I win, you lose.
*does a victory pose*
Last edited by Papa Smurph on Jun 13th, 2007 at 01:49 PM
-sigh- I hate quoting like this because no one ever reads them, but the fact is, this kid is so wrong about so much and he pretty much out-right lies about half the things he says...I don't have a choice but to do it.
It's nulled. Betsy can't fly, I can. If you pop into the air from nowhere, you'll just be giving me a easier to hit target.
Dragon Man's mind is like a retarded dog, you don't have to beat him or hit him really hard to intimidate him. When he's in a rage, he's an equal of Hulk. In fact, he did well against Herc for a while, stalemated Namor, beat She-Hulk and spikey thing at the same time, took a small nuke to the stomach and fell from orbit...all of which are a bit more powerful than a slap on the nose and all of which he took without being hurt much. Don't be stupid with the slap on the nose thing.
[b]You can't even see me during prep. What the hell are you talking about? Zero does it instantaneously, I don't need prep.
[size=2]Eric did well when he basically took on Asgard by himself. He didn't seem very green then, did he? The last 10 or so issues Eric got serious and learned a lot more about warfare than he did while being Thor. Plus, Zero is a anti-war machine. He's got every war's style and method ever in his memory banks. He's got every strategy so he can counter them. So, actually, I'm more experienced than your guy at warfare.
Way too late for DQs. Seems like you're reaching for straws to me. A DQ would be if TS was as powerful as Thor, he isn't. But Thor said his hammer is as potent as mjolnir. Meaning, it has some very hard hitting powers.
Thunder's is as good as Thor's when it comes to going from place to place and Zero's was used basically ONLY for his superb teleportation. My teleporting powers are lightyears beyond yours.
Show me a difference between magical TP and regular TP. Go ahead, show me.
And Zero's main ability is computerized high-speed thinking and calculation which he uses to find weaknesses, I have all his powers and thus, I have his computerized brain-waves.
That would be true if he wasn't shown taking massive blasts from villains and shrugging them off only to be one-shotted by a simple magical blast. But yeah, if it weren't for that little detail, you'd be correct.
The problem with that is you'll never be able to hit me. You can't reach me to touch me. I don't even have to fight you h2h, in fact, I will not do it. That's your only advantage. H2h Skills. I have all the other advantages.[size]
[size=2]I'm protected from both. But, for fun, show me the difference between Loki's telepathy and...say...Psylocks'.
The amalgamation process changed Eric's mind into a computerized version of itself. So, too bad.
Your ring will be turned into the worlds most useless bling ever.
Ok, in summation, I'll point out all the bad things in another installment of...
LP's Top Reasons Why This Guy's Plan Sucks.
1. He can't use prep to scan me, that's borderline retarded. I'm tempted to throw this guy's pic in my sig to make the downy kid look smarter.
2. His only real advantage is he's better at h2h fighting. Good news is I never plan on h2h fighting the guy.
3. All his superpowers were rendered useless.
4. He has no long range weapons.
5. His ONLY plan is to wait for Masterson to make a mistake....stupid plan since Zero's abilities allow Masterson's mind to calculate scenario's like a chess player on meth.
6. Hm....well, I'd like to thank everyone who voted for me, making me the undisputed winner, which showed exactly how futile this guy's arguments were.
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Last edited by long pig on Jun 14th, 2007 at 05:39 AM
Really Pig's arguments are nothing but hearsay and trying to find as many loopholes in the rules as necessary with some blatant lying sprinkled in, but I'll make rebuttal anyway.
It's nulled.
We'll let the judges decide, to me, your ability to take away my superspeed is power negation.
Betsy can't fly, I can. If you pop into the air from nowhere, you'll just be giving me a easier to hit target.
You're a psychic now? Masterson isn't countering Karate Kid's much higher battle speed with his ability to parry punches with his face. And duh Betsy can't fly, but her Shadow teleportation is clearly able to allow her to materialize in the air and right behind Masterson (who's seeing multiple illusions and incapable of reacting).
Dragon Man's mind is like a retarded dog, you don't have to beat him or hit him really hard to intimidate him.
Good to know.
When he's in a rage, he's an equal of Hulk.
*Base Hulk. Which is about 100 tons.
And then there's still Black Panther making him hold his nose in pain after punching it. Meemoo would likely evaporate it with a CL 8,000,000 punch.
In fact, he did well against Herc for a while, stalemated Namor, beat She-Hulk and spikey thing at the same time,
None of which are near as dangerous as a Class 100 Karate Kid.
took a small nuke to the stomach and fell from orbit...all of which are a bit more powerful than a slap on the nose and all of which he took without being hurt much.
None of which were direct attacks at his weak point (nose) from a Class 100 Universal Class Martial Artist.
PS: The stomach is pretty far off from the face, don't you think ?
Don't be stupid with the slap on the nose thing.
Nobodies being stupid but the one refuting a scan with hearsay.
You can't even see me during prep. What the hell are you talking about? Zero does it instantaneously, I don't need prep.
To my understanding each character has basic knowledge of each other, including what the other combatant looks like. All Meemoo has to do is analyze your person and he's done. Even if for whatever reason Meemoo has no clue as to what Dragon Man looks like he can analyze it during the course of the fight and make him feel hurt .
Eric did well when he basically took on Asgard by himself. He didn't seem very green then, did he?
He did when the much lower MA then Karate Kid level Cap tooled him while telling him what a bush league fighter he was.
And when did Thunderstrike take on Asgard by himself?
Plus, Zero is a anti-war machine. He's got every war's style and method ever in his memory banks. He's got every strategy so he can counter them. So, actually, I'm more experienced than your guy at warfare.
Hearsay. Plus Masterson is too much of a doofus to actually use said strategies.
Way too late for DQs. Seems like you're reaching for straws to me. A DQ would be if TS was as powerful as Thor, he isn't. But Thor said his hammer is as potent as mjolnir. Meaning, it has some very hard hitting powers.
Judges, I hope you are seeing Long Pig's false belief of being able to sneak a Herald level artifact in the tourney. Even if we all know Thunderstrike is nowhere near as potent as Mjlonir, by Long Pig's own admittance he should be DQ'd and the only thing saving him is "way too late for DQs."
Thunder's is as good as Thor's when it comes to going from place to place and Zero's was used basically ONLY for his superb teleportation.
Thunderstrike winds up his mace and takes a few minutes to be able to teleport, if you want to stop combat against Val Armorr to swing your mace around, please feel free to do so. Zero actually has to create a doorway (entry and exit) to teleport, meaning that Meemoo will be able to see wherever you're teleporting and meet you there with his eyesight (which is easily able to survey the battle field) and his teleportation + faster battle speed.
Not to mention Zero's doorways disappear after about a minute, meaning if I were to slap you away from it, you're boned with no vaseline.
My teleporting powers are lightyears beyond yours.
Quite the contrary, your teleportation is actually a hindrance as it gives away where you're moving next and isn't instantaneous, while mine is basically dive into a shadow and where I appear next is anyone's guess.
Show me a difference between magical TP and regular TP. Go ahead, show me.
One is a magical spell the other one isn't, not rocket science. Try proving the ludicrous claim that magical TP is the equivalent to mutant TP instead of placing the burden of proof on someone who doesn't have to prove jack.
And Zero's main ability is computerized high-speed thinking and calculation which he uses to find weaknesses, I have all his powers and thus, I have his computerized brain-waves.
Yup and Eric Masterson's human mind is still vulnerable to telepathy. Unless you want to prove that being able to think fast makes you immune to TP.
That would be true if he wasn't shown taking massive blasts from villains and shrugging them off only to be one-shotted by a simple magical blast
Another blatant lie, never once in a comic has Invincible been taken down by a magical blast. Hell, Invincible has never even been oneshotted, not even by Omni-Man.
The problem with that is you'll never be able to hit me. You can't reach me to touch me. I don't even have to fight you h2h, in fact, I will not do it. That's your only advantage. H2h Skills. I have all the other advantages.
I have proven to be easily able to reach you with Shadow Teleportation (why this FACT has been ignored with this point, I just don't know), I have proven that Jean Grey being unable to read a robot's mind means naught to Eric Masterson, I have proven that my amalgam beats yours in every way imagineable.
I'm protected from both. But, for fun, show me the difference between Loki's telepathy and...say...Psylocks'.
One is magical and the other is all natural. The burden of proof is on you to prove that magically bestowed and genetically bestowed telepathy are the same.
The amalgamation process changed Eric's mind into a computerized version of itself. So, too bad.
No it didn't, it just accelerated Eric's thought process. Unless you can prove that transforming human brains into computers is one of Zero's powers, you lose, again.
1. He can't use prep to scan me, that's borderline retarded. I'm tempted to throw this guy's pic in my sig to make the downy kid look smarter.
Self pwnage. Meemoo is only using the general knowledge of the character (he's a big ugly Dragon) to deduce his nose is vulnerable. A skill we all know Karate Kid has.
2. His only real advantage is he's better at h2h fighting. Good news is I never plan on h2h fighting the guy.
*H2H fighting
*Speed
*Punching power
*Durability
*Teleportation
*Battle Savy
*Looks
*everything but sucking dirt really
3. All his superpowers were rendered useless.
Power negation = DQ'd.
4. He has no long range weapons.
Except my TP, which works on the very human mind of Masterson (unless you can prove that Zero has the power to turn human minds into mechanical ones) oh and much more battle potent teleportation.
5. His ONLY plan is to wait for Masterson to make a mistake....stupid plan since Zero's abilities allow Masterson's mind to calculate scenario's like a chess player on meth.
*like a retarded chess player on meth. You can give all the chess tactics and crystal meth in the world to a seven year old, he still isn't beating a world class chess player in a million years.
6. Hm....well, I'd like to thank everyone who voted for me, making me the undisputed winner, which showed exactly how futile this guy's arguments were.
Hm....well, I'd like to thank everyone who voted for me, making me the undisputed winner, which showed exactly how futile this guy's arguments were.
PS:
Invincible can survive the harsh Antartic environment with ease
In this whole argument the only thing Pig's managed to do is maybe turn off the flight ring (which in turn, turns off my POWERS of flight and Mach speed) everything else has been him childishly dancing in circles and making up facts and powers while stating that his 10,000 tons of lifting force will allow him to juggle planets or something equally goofy to that effect.
In conclusion:
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Meemoo pwns your face off
Last edited by Papa Smurph on Jun 14th, 2007 at 07:43 AM
Them straws you're grasping at don't look too strong.
Due to the fact that I can NOT get burnt CD's to run on this computer so I can load my scans, thus proving you wrong completely, I'll go through one more round of quoting.
No, it's cutting off your ring. The fact is, I can steal the energy from the ring and use it for myself for a power-boost if I so desired.
Zero isn't a psychic, but he can read brain waves that give away a person's next move. So, you're half right.
Oh, and illusions won't work on my because Zero instantaneously scans for lifeforms wherever he's at. Thus, I'll know they aren't real.
Black Panter just took out the Silver Surfer recently as well, didn't he? You're not serious about this nose bop, are you?
They're many times more dangerous than a karate kid who can't fly and has no long range attacks. Way more dangerous.
Wait, you mean the beginning of his Thunderstrike career, right? Issue 6 or so out of 25.
When Mephisto made him a deal that would allow Eric's son to have his soul back. He fought his way through the Royal Asgardian Army all the way up to Odin.
You really don't know what you're talking about. It's not hearsay when Zero himself says he knows all war strategies of Earth's and other planet's past and present so that he can stop them from happening before they begin.
See, this is where you just lie and hope I don't call you on your bullshit.
1. Thunder does indeed swing his hammer, just like Thor. He teleports in microseconds. How fast does a rocket fly? I initiated a teleport spell and teleported before it hit him. As for Zero....wow. You do realize he only opens portals when he brings passengers with him, correct? When he doesn't have passengers, he teleports like Nightcrawler. He's there and then he's not. Check out in Cable's comic when Zero gained sentience, you'll see.
Again, you're either lying, or you're simply a bad reader. He doesn't need portals unless he's bringing people with him. "It's in a book...just take a look...reading rainbowww"
Hmm...maybe you really can't read. I'm sorry about that. Reading IS the key.
Strange, Odin, Agg, Loki, Dracula as a host of others don't need spells to unleash a mind attack or probe. In fact, they've NEVER used a spell for telepathy. Grasp them straws, baby!
I shall explain this to you slowly. Ahem.
Zero's main ability is to use his computerized brain to figure things out near instantaneously, that same ability is used for a host of his powers. The Amalgamation process allows for this to transfer. Thus, Eric's mind is now a computer.
Read above...oh wait...sorry. Shadow Teleportation is a ****ing joke and you KNOW this. You KNOW it's primarily used to spying and escaping, not fighting. I dare you to prove she has complete control over it. She doesn't! Even if she somehow learned to control it perfectly (which she never has) it's STILL not enough to use in a battle.
Loki's telepathy has never been called magic telepathy, in fact, no telepathy has ever been called magic telepathy. Why? It doesn't exist!
Loki's mental abilities are natural, he had them before puberty as we saw in Son of Asgard and Loki's mini.
Power negation= Me Win.
So, wait. You're using pre-crisis KK? That's the only version who had that ring.
Current KK's ring is tech, AND, if you forgot to mention, his ring has trouble working after he punches someone. Remember when KK and Ultraboy's Rings stopped working because they fought h2h? Yeah, I do.
Ok, one more time:
1. I'm stronger by miles. (Dragon Man's superhuman Hercules matching strength is multiplied a few hundred, if not a thousand fold)
2. I'm just as fast if not faster. (Dragon Man's superhuman speed is multiplied a few hundred, if not a thousand fold)
3. I more durable by miles.(Dragon Man's superhuman Hulk level durability is multiplied a few hundred, if not a thousand fold)
4.I'm more intelligent by lightyears.(Zero's got thousands of years of information uploaded)
5. My ability to think is faster by lightyears.(Zero thinks instantaneously)
6.My weapons outclass his by lightyears.(Near mjolnir potency blasts as well as Zero's blasts)
7. I'm the only flyer.
8. I'm immune to his telepathy. (Can't read my mind because I have two protections against it.)
9. I'm a better teleporter.(by lightyears)
10. I'm the only one with long range weapons.(Yep. His guy is only h2h)
11. I'm immune to his illusions. (Can't fool a life-sensing robot with illusions)
12. I'm the only one with a force field. (indeed I am)
13. I'm the only one with energy absorbtion. (Zero and Thunder are top notch energy absorbers/manipulators)
14. I'm the only one who has magic. (yup)
15. I'm the only one who can see the other's weakness and imediately exploit it with a specific blast.(He can find a weakness after a few minutes of looking and then the best he can do is pray I come down and try to fight him h2h)
No, it's cutting off your ring. The fact is, I can steal the energy from the ring and use it for myself for a power-boost if I so desired.
Your offensive tech negation was banned in the discussion topic, so go me. Mach 10 CL 8,000,000 punches for the win, losing your aerial advantage (which is able to be countered by shadow porting anyway) for the loss .
Zero isn't a psychic, but he can read brain waves that give away a person's next move. So, you're half right.
In what comic? I've never seen Zero do this and I doubt any of the judges have.
Oh, and illusions won't work on my because Zero instantaneously scans for lifeforms wherever he's at. Thus, I'll know they aren't real.
ERIC MASTERSON is not instantly deducing that 5 spread out beings are fakes. Even if it only takes a few seconds that's giving a Mach 10, teleporting, Val Armorr a lifetime to beat the hell out of you.
Black Panter just took out the Silver Surfer recently as well, didn't he? You're not serious about this nose bop, are you?
He took him out using tech, the same level of tech that's allowed him to take out FRIGGIN MEPHISTO in the past.
Your underestimation of Black Panther's capabilities and Wakandan tech is not gaining you any ground here.
They're many times more dangerous than a karate kid who can't fly and has no long range attacks. Way more dangerous.
Except Karate Kid can fly, has long range attacks, and is actually able to fight at hyper speed.
Wait, you mean the beginning of his Thunderstrike career, right? Issue 6 or so out of 25.
That event happened the issue before he died (notice the Bloodstrike attire).
You really don't know what you're talking about. It's not hearsay when Zero himself says he knows all war strategies of Earth's and other planet's past and present so that he can stop them from happening before they begin.
It is hearsay because you're implying that his knowledge of Marvel war carries over to DC.
See, this is where you just lie and hope I don't call you on your bullshit.
1. Thunder does indeed swing his hammer, just like Thor. He teleports in microseconds.
Damn so Thunderstrike is able to deliver these speeches in microseconds?
That means he talks faster then the speed of sound. (and please note the failure for a mind character in Eric Masterson saying he has no clue what he's doing in the first scan)
As for Zero....wow. You do realize he only opens portals when he brings passengers with him, correct?
He's never traveled without opening portals in any of the comics I've seen (which includes all of his appearances in Uncanny and X-Force).
When he doesn't have passengers, he teleports like Nightcrawler. He's there and then he's not. Check out in Cable's comic when Zero gained sentience, you'll see.
I'm not about to sit here and submit myself to the self mutilation of reading a 90's Cable comic to prove your point you're trying to make, why don't you do your job as a debator and provide scans (like you've been asking me to do and I've been obliging)?
Again, you're either lying, or you're simply a bad reader. He doesn't need portals unless he's bringing people with him. "It's in a book...just take a look...reading rainbowww"
It's in a book is your best argument? Why don't I just print out the comic strip of Meemoo making your amalgam cry, slap a cover on it and call this argument a day by quoting a book where you lose?
Strange, Odin, Agg, Loki, Dracula as a host of others don't need spells to unleash a mind attack or probe. In fact, they've NEVER used a spell for telepathy. Grasp them straws, baby!
Oh so they were born with this telepathy or did they use their abilities as mages to invoke it?
I shall explain this to you slowly. Ahem.
Zero's main ability is to use his computerized brain to figure things out near instantaneously, that same ability is used for a host of his powers. The Amalgamation process allows for this to transfer. Thus, Eric's mind is now a computer.
And I shall explain this to you, slower, with emphasis.
Zero's ABILITY is to use his computerized brain to figure things out near instantaneously, Eric Masterson's HUMAN mind has just obtained the ABILITY to figure things out near instantaneously. IF Zero's ABILITY was to TURN HUMAN BRAINS INTO COMPUTERS then you would have point, but it ISN'T.
Shadow Teleportation is a ****ing joke and you KNOW this. You KNOW it's primarily used to spying and escaping, not fighting. I dare you to prove she has complete control over it.
LOL, grasping for straws are we, all this stuff is ALREADY proven in this topic.
Teleports herself right in front of Storm from across a city, then proceeds to teleport herself, Wolverine and a group of X-Men from New York to Kenya. She teleports herself and Wolverine to flank the rear and puts the other X-Men in the village they were detecting the evil telepath in. Cannoball also remarks how he travels this way all the time
1. I'm stronger by miles. (Dragon Man's superhuman Hercules matching strength is multiplied a few hundred, if not a thousand fold)
Got any numbers? Colossus has matched the Class 100 Gladiator when he was only Class 85, we're going to say because he can match the Class 100 Glads he's as strong Glads? Using Dragon Man being able to match the Mortal Herc sucks when there's no evidence of what his strength is besides him being able to bench 100 tons. Which even if we use the random #s pulled out your ass (which don't stay consistent with the previous post btw) is still only 100,000 tons of lifting force, which is a pretty cute # next to 8,000,000.
2. I'm just as fast if not faster. (Dragon Man's superhuman speed is multiplied a few hundred, if not a thousand fold)
Thunderstrike doesn't give you super speed. Thunderstrike himself isn't even faster then Cap (unless you call winding his hammer, throwing and catching it a valid for battle example of speed).
3. I more durable by miles.(Dragon Man's superhuman Hulk level durability is multiplied a few hundred, if not a thousand fold)
And I strike with 8,000,000x's more force then the Black Panther that made your Dragon Man grasp his nose in pain while being capable of parrying whatever you throw at me (with ease, Masterson sucks donkey balls). Your thousand fold # randomly pulled out of nowhere is peanuts.
And Invincible can take a beating himself, like when he doesn't get frail from being hit in the face by Omni-Man (unlike Dragon Man who sucks his thumb in fear at the sight of Black Panther)
4.I'm more intelligent by lightyears.(Zero's got thousands of years of information uploaded)
Zero's got thousands of years of information uploaded, Masterson is still a retard. Your point?
5. My ability to think is faster by lightyears.(Zero thinks instantaneously)
Okay so Masterson is a fast thinking retard.
Still isn't near as battle savy as Val Armorr
6.My weapons outclass his by lightyears.(Near mjolnir potency blasts as well as Zero's blasts)
That's not hard to do when you're the only one on the field with a weapon.
Though I would take Val Armorr's class 100 fists over THUNDERSTRIKE anyday.
7. I'm the only flyer.
False, as discussed in the discussion topic.
8. I'm immune to his telepathy. (Can't read my mind because I have two protections against it.)
Eric Masterson has protection over magical bestowed Telepathy with his magical weapon. That's it. And for fun, here's what Meemoo thinks of your magical weapons giving you telepathy resistance
(PS: Juggs helmet >>>>>> Thunderstrike fyi and please note Juggs ALSO had the skull cap on too, so she went through two layers of telepathic immunity)
9. I'm a better teleporter.(by lightyears)
False, your teleportation sucks, almost as much as your speed does.
10. I'm the only one with long range weapons.(Yep. His guy is only h2h)
Yep. His guy is only h2h, with telepathy you have no resistance against, with speed that greatly dwarfs his, and without ERIC MASTERSON as the driving force of his creation.
11. I'm immune to his illusions. (Can't fool a life-sensing robot with illusions)
But you can fool the absent minded ERIC MASTERSON.
12. I'm the only one with a force field. (indeed I am)
It sucks that Karate Kid is able to detect weakness in the force field and shatter it.
13. I'm the only one with energy absorbtion. (Zero and Thunder are top notch energy absorbers/manipulators)
Not that anyone cares or anything.
14. I'm the only one who has magic. (yup)
Not that anyone cares or anything.
15. I'm the only one who can see the other's weakness and imediately exploit it with a specific blast.(He can find a weakness after a few minutes of looking and then the best he can do is pray I come down and try to fight him h2h)
B&
In Conclusion:
I’m faster
Hit harder.
Far more battle savy
Prettier
Able to blast his face with my TP
Possess better Teleportation
Am able to counter whatever he throws at me.
All of my characters are actually within the caps.
Did I mention that Invincible and Karate Kid are both AWESOME PIMPS with a PLENTIFUL supply of SLUTTY hos while Eric Masterson is a 25 year old virgin that tried to bone the chick with man body parts?
By the way
Invincible can survive Anatartica's harsh conditions with ease
Can Dragon Man?
Last edited by Papa Smurph on Jun 15th, 2007 at 05:27 PM
Power negation is banned, not tech negation. Goob said so himself. That ring is a tech weapon, it can be used for offensive purposes. It's no different than a gun, and thus I can destroy it.
Again, the cold fact of this fight is I have every single advantage.
Stronger. at least 150 tons times 1200x=3000000 tons.
Faster. Dragon Man's already superhuman relfexes and speed have been multiplied over a 1000x fold.
Smarter and I think faster.
More powerful. TS' blasts are on the level of maybe even Eric-Thor.
More durable. Dragonman's near invulnerability has been multi. 1000x fold.
Immune to your illusions and telepathy. The mace protects its user from mental attacks and zero can scan living things. Meaning he would know they were illusions.
More mobile. My superior, battle worthy teleportion allows me to be anywhere instananeously.
Immune to your physical attacks for a while because of my forcefield.
The only one with eyesight because yours has been taken away when I blinded you with a blast.
I have long range weapons , you have none. And my short range attacks outclass any you have.
I'm the only true teleporter. Your teleportation is useless in a fight. It's really never been used as a fightinh technique.
I'm the only energy absorber.
I'm the only magic user.
I mean, you're blind, out muscled, out maneuvered, out powered and out gunned and out smarted.
I can not think of a single way you can beat me.
As for the little " Can Dragon Man survive antartica?" I don't know, but I know a Dragon Man whos powers have been raised a thousand fold could.
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Last edited by long pig on Jun 17th, 2007 at 04:26 AM
**Oh, and any damage taken to my body, cuts to broken bones or even a torn shirt, is healed/mended nearly instantaneously by using the hammer's little "on/off" switch.
That's a big one I keep forgetting to mention.**
Is this over yet? We're justing going around in circles.
Give me my win so I can take my revenge on Scoob. Oh, yes, I'm still bitter over the herald tourny fight a year and a half ago. I have a special plan for you buddy boy.
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Last edited by long pig on Jun 18th, 2007 at 05:26 AM
First off let me give the obligatory congrats to both combatants. This was actually a pretty evenly matched battle as far as arguments are concerened. This battle is a bit complicated to vote on. Let me just get my voting points out of the way and I'll present my vote:
1) Dragonman's body - Dragonman as the body is a solid pick save for one aspect; he has a dog-like/under developed brain. You're putting Masterson's consiousness into this under developed brain along with Zero's tech powers. I'm not so sure 10 minutes of prep would give you optimum efficiency Long Pig. Particularly trying to impose super speed data processing on so primitive a brain (if that's actually possible).
2) Tech Negation: Zero has the power to shutdown & neutralize weapons/threats. He doesn't just shut down everything in his vicinity. Karate Kid's flight ring is a mode of transportation and a non hostile instrument. I doubt you'd be able to simply turn it off. It would be like Zero automatically turning off every vehicle and communicator in his vacinity because it could theoretically be weaponized. He doesn't work like that, and furthermore, you presented no evidence that he works like that.
3) Evidence - Long Pig provided no evidence whatsoever to support any of his claims, and also blatantly exaggerated a lot of his claims. In historic tournaments that may have swayed the observers in your favor, but this is 2007 and proof is now not only paramount, but a requisite. I can't simply take your word for what you present. I have knowledge of the characters you're using but it's still up to you to provide substantiating evidence to support your tactics. You provided none whatsoever.
4) Telepathy - The magical versus natural telepathy argument was never really fleshed out. I'm not sure whether or not there is a difference, but neither side truly presented a solid case.
5) Fighting Skill - Stacks clearly has the upper hand in fighting ability. With Karate Kid's abilities in a super strong and durable body he'd be a beast (let alone the telepathy, teleportation, etc. of Psylocke), and he'd also be able to fly at top speed due to not having any ill effects from wind sheer. Not to meanton the amount of force delivered by such precise and powerful blows.
In contrast, Masterson is now in an awkward, bulky, semi humanoid monster body, but he'd have the speed and reflex enhancements Thunderstrike grants.
6) Follow Your Nose - "The Toucan Sam Attack of 2007" is hilarious. However, since Dragonman would no longer have dog like tendencies, hitting him in the nose wouldn't make him curl up in a ball like a dog would. However, getting punched in the nose still hurts like f*ck and that scan does show that Dragonman's body is vulnerable. Dragonman enhanced by Thunderstrike, I'm not so sure. Which leads to my next point.
7) Thunderstike's enhancements [Evidence continued] - Besides the comical mathematics LP presented, the abilities of Thunderstrike were never fleshed out. I know for a fact that he's no where near as powerful as Thor, but what he's actually capable of was not shown, so while I could take Long Pig's word for it... ( :laugh ), I can't really consider it as fact.
Etc...
There's actually a lot more that I considered on top of this, but I could go on and on (something I apologize for. My line of work tends to make me very thorough with my explanations.). I'll just get to the meat:
Basically we have a telepathic/telekinetic Superboy clone with arguably the best h2h and battle tactician skills in comicdom versus a monster with a magical mace, high end durability and strength, energy blasts, and ability to turn off weapons (though KK is unarmed).
All things considered this is a hard decision, but for me it really comes down to Long Pig not actually supporting anything he said, and me not believing that Zero's thought processing speed and battle scenario computations are a "power" as opposed to a trait of him being a robot, and then super-imposing those robot traits on a retarded dog brain in a giant monster body with Eric Masterson as the driving consciousness, and expecting it all to mix into an unbeatable force without any evidence to support the claims.
Again, like Martian, if you had more time and actually substantiated your argument I'd likely have voted for you, but as it stands, my vote goes to Joey Stacks and Meemoo.
I'd like to state that the name Meemoo makes me wish I could vote against you, however.
You're ex's nickname is Meemoo? I hope you weren't the one that gave that to her...
...now that you've explained it it does makes a lil more sense. Still sounds like a ghetto cow speaking in the 1st person, but eh, those are the breaks.
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Jun 12th, 2007 01:28 AM
@ implying otherwise (which by the way, if you can prove, is an instant DQ, good day sir).
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Black Panter just took out the Silver Surfer recently as well, didn't he? You're not serious about this nose bop, are you?
(and please note the failure for a mind character in Eric Masterson saying he has no clue what he's doing in the first scan)
