i fthis is precriis superman, he could and would utterly curbstomp ds. ds cant beat the weak superman in todays times. ds gets beat worse then when he met those steps.
nope. read apokoilps now and see how ds fails with the new wimpier version of superman. he was curbstomped. ds hasnt been depowered at all yet he is so wimpy now that its scary. he gets worked by raker,utterly stomped by doomsday, and loses to a deppwered superman straight up. in the past ds was much tougher but in the present he as weak as can be. its just the way it is. hell ds cant even keep his balance and has fallen off a few steps. pre supes in a curbstomp, 10 out of 10.
ds isnt as powerful as he was back then. he loses to the current supes. things have changed and darkseid has been depowered along with everyone in dc. he sint the same badass he was under kirby. things have changed and definitely for the better.
no it doesnt. ds has been depowered in his current state, its common sense. superman from precrisis stomps this current state of ds who falls down steps from time to time.
You suck at debating Quanchi. When ever someone disagrees with me, you take their argument and use it as your own. The thing about that, is you base it off of nothing and when you do that you dig yourself a grave. Right now that's what your doing, because I saw someone make the same statement. Ds was only puny in Apokolips now, that one Action comics story and Superman and Batman. Compare those three bad showings, to his many high showings. And please answer my question, can current Supes defeat Stayne?
current supes would have one heck of a bttle between stayne. create the thread and ill actually asnwer it. in apokolips now it was a straight up fight. when was the last time ds beat superman, what year did he accomplish this. currently supes is one up over ds, its all about what have u done lately. it wasnt one win either. no cheapshots. supes beat him down staright up and ds admitted he was humiliated. out of his own mouth ds admitted he lost, badly.
my proof is common sense. if u think ds is shown at all in current times to compare with the montsr he used to be ur falt out wrong. how can a much weaker supes beat down ds unless he has a lost a step or two. ds also fell down a step or two. while he may not have been affected by it in comics, writers have made him a shell of what he was 15 years ago. ds isnt the threat he used to be. he may accomplish something awesome in coutndown but i hope he does. i hate seeing ds this weak and fragile.
i aid pretty much the same thing. im not riding ur coatials i said that its obviiosu becuz ds was treated by the wroters as a monster back in the day against an insanely powerful superman but in todays comics he loses to a weak as shit superman stright up. so no i just agreed with u and sai dbasically the same thing. superman was way more powerufl bakc in the day and couldnt contend with ds then, but now superman is weaker and beats current ds around.
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while he may not have been affected by it in comics, writers have made him a shell of what he was 15 years ago. ds isnt the threat he used to be. he may accomplish something awesome in coutndown but i hope he does. i hate seeing ds this weak and fragile. 
