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Parallax vs. Mad Jim Jaspers

According to CBR, Parallax could just destroy reality or take Jaspers to un-space so he can't manipulate reality.


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Parallax could if he knows that info...which i don't think he would under the rules of the site...i don't think that's basic knowledge

But i would say parallax/hal would win
Parallax has not only the central battery power and the oans,he has antmatter power left from the coie anti monitor...plus he learned how to manipulate enthropy

To me reality warping is not the end all of powers..his feats are not impressive to me,especially when the greatest feat is one told by a pre-cog..who See's a future where he rules all and his warp takes over the omniverse...but it does not happen immediately

Mr Master has all the scans and has him high up on his hierarchy(check it out if your into those things in the comic section.....)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t425758.html

I don't agree with Mr Masters on MJJ but he does have allot of info on him


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I read all the info.

MJJ is badass.

Also, didn't Parallax beat Spectre? That's what I've heard from..everyone. Except a DC fanboy.


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I read all the info.

MJJ is badass.

Also, didn't Parallax beat Spectre? That's what I've heard from..everyone. Except a DC fanboy.


In my opinion..yes he did beat specter in zero hour
parallax fights spectre and all the heroes and parallax makes spectre cry out...and is not seen for a page or two untill after hal is beat, also kyle/GL says spectre's sacrafice.blah blah blah weakened parallax

So yes i say he beat spectre...but i dont think that view is a majority here...it would mean allot of re-thinking of spectre's place in the scheme of things...and we would not want to do that here at KMC now would we?


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I read all the info.

MJJ is badass.

Also, didn't Parallax beat Spectre? That's what I've heard from..everyone. Except a DC fanboy.
Hal recognized Spectre as the one that beat him. History of the DCU recognized Spectre as the one that beat him. Spectre's "Secret Files" recognized Spectre as the one that beat him.

Although on panel, they were fighting to a standstill, and Parallax blasted him down. Spectre was out of the fight for rest of it, which amounted to the heros yelling that battling Spectre left him powerless, getting punched, put in a full nelson and taken out by Green Arrow. Spectre appeared again, and reinstated the big bang by pumping energy into Damage.

So Parallax/Hal was out of energy and got beat by guys punching and kicking, wrestling and catching an arrow in the chest...while Spectre still had the energy to reinstate the big bang.

It seems to become clear that leaving him powerless was what Spectre intended and the heros took over from there.

To think he could have that vast amount energy he had left, and Hal being powerless, it would have been a pretty lopsided fight had he continued to be part of the battle.


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Hal recognized Spectre as the one that beat him. History of the DCU recognized Spectre as the one that beat him. Spectre's "Secret Files" recognized Spectre as the one that beat him.

Although on panel, they were fighting to a standstill, and Parallax blasted him down. Spectre was out of the fight for rest of it, which amounted to the heros yelling that battling Spectre left him powerless, getting punched, put in a full nelson and taken out by Green Arrow. Spectre appeared again, and reinstated the big bang by pumping energy into Damage.

So Parallax/Hal was out of energy and got beat by guys punching and kicking, wrestling and catching an arrow in the chest...while Spectre still had the energy to reinstate the big bang.

It seems to become clear that leaving him powerless was what Spectre intended and the heros took over from there.

To think he could have that vast amount energy he had left, and Hal being powerless, it would have been a pretty lopsided fight had he continued to be part of the battle.


You say he used damage for his feat..not that impresive to me....and a k.o is a win here on KMC so parallax would have a win..according to zero hour?

Hal and the history and secret files are referencing spectre sacrafice to depower parallax?.....so he is most instrumental in his deafeat..but a win is a win and to me...parallax beat spectre.....dressing it up as somthing else does not erase the feat


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You say he used damage for his feat..not that impresive to me....and a k.o is a win here on KMC so parallax would have a win..according to zero hour?

Hal and the history and secret files are referencing spectre sacrafice to depower parallax?.....so he is most instrumental in his deafeat..but a win is a win and to me...parallax beat spectre.....dressing it up as somthing else does not erase the feat
Extrapolating? Show me the panel where Spectre is shown knocked out. He was still standing at the end of the fight. And Hal was powerless.
The heros beating Parallax was Spectre's judgement, and so it was. Hence Spectre standing there saying "Judgment is passed."

But from what I gather from your post here, you haven't actually read the material and are just speculating about everything. Thus, it being ' a win to you', doesn't mean shit to me. smile


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Parallax is a straight up powerful sob... i think this should be a great fight, but in the end MJJ should take it.

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parallax for the win

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Extrapolating? Show me the panel where Spectre is shown knocked out. He was still standing at the end of the fight. And Hal was powerless.
The heros beating Parallax was Spectre's judgement, and so it was. Hence Spectre standing there saying "Judgment is passed."

But from what I gather from your post here, you haven't actually read the material and are just speculating about everything. Thus, it being ' a win to you', doesn't mean shit to me. smile


Give it up..of course i read it and own it, i even have the trade paperback on top of the individual comics.... so when you used the words......
JUNTAI SAID "Although on panel, they were fighting to a standstill, and Parallax blasted him down. Spectre was out of the fight for rest of it,"

what did you mean? these are your words from the thread right?
so i gather like i did when spectre screamed like a girl and was not seen untill hal lost..he was put down lol i say K.O

If an immortal right hand of god character gets his butt kicked and he cries out in pain and dissapears untill the person who kicked his butt is defeated and then comes back because he is immortal and a right hand of god...it still is a loss

It obviously means somthing to you( i dont need to use the words you do lol), me i dont respond to threads and post that mean nothing to me, you might get the label fanboy with this type of behavior


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Give it up..of course i read it and own it, i even have the trade paperback on top of the indivisual comics.... so when you used the words......
JUNTAI SAID "Although on panel, they were fighting to a standstill, and Parallax blasted him down. Spectre was out of the fight for rest of it,"

what did you mean? these are your words from the thread right?
so i gather like i did when spectre screamed like a girl and was not seen untill hal lost..he was put down lol i say K.O

If an immortal right hand of god character gets his butt kicked and he cries out in pain and dissapears untill the person who kicked his butt is defeated and then comes back because he is immortal and a right hand of god...it still is a loss

It obviously means somthing to you( i dont need to use the words you do lol), me i dont respond to threads and post that mean nothing to me, you might get the label fanboy with this type of behavior
OK, so you admit you're extrapolating then? Cool.
And it became obvious you never read the story when you didn't know Damage was a key part in it.

Hal and Spectre engaged, Hal ended up powerless, Hal is defeated by a headlock and a regular arrow Spectre still packs enough to juice to boost damage up to Big Bang level of energy. And at no point was Spectre shown unconscious.


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OK, so you admit you're extrapolating then? Cool.
And it became obvious you never read the story when you didn't know Damage was a key part in it.

Hal and Spectre engaged, Hal ended up powerless, Hal is defeated, Spectre still packs enough to juice to boost damage up to Big Bang level of energy.


Spectre is the wrath of god.. i would hope he can come back..matter of fact he better come back or his god has alot to answer for
i was letting you show spectre's barely a feat by using damage..you showed us what we needed to..not me

i can even tell about the two parter where extant is born that is in the tradepaperback, the one where monarch becomes extant and it goes into hawk and dove,the death that changed him,then waverider referencing the real power monarch has...which he becomes extant
so i never read it huh..bad try bad bad try

Dont try and tell me what i know and dont know i read the trade two days ago and have it out at my table...you seem like a deflated fanboy who saw his favorite character loose face,..notice my first post has a coment about how here at kmc spectre is beyond reproach? ..what i did not count on were your words.......
"Although on panel, they were fighting to a standstill, and Parallax blasted him down. Spectre was out of the fight for rest of it"

So i gather now p.i.s will be added to this so spectre can be beyond loosing and parallax wont be able to get what he deserves... a win against spectre


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Spectre is the wrath of god.. i would hope he can come back..matter of fact he better come back or his god has alot to answer for
i was letting you show spectre's barely a feat by using damage..you showed us what we needed to..not me

i can even tell about the two parter where extant is born that is in the tradepaperback, the one where monarch becomes extant and it goes into hawk and dove,the death that changed him,then waverider referencing the real power monarch has...which he becomes extant
so i never read it huh..bad try bad bad try

Dont try and tell me what i know and dont know i read the trade two days ago and have it out at my table...you seem like a deflated fanboy who saw his favorite character loose face,..notice my first post has a coment about how here at kmc spectre is beyond reproach? ..what i did not count on were your words.......
"Although on panel, they were fighting to a standstill, and Parallax blasted him down. Spectre was out of the fight for rest of it"

So i gather now p.i.s will be added to this so spectre can be beyond loosing and parallax wont be able to get what he deserves... a win against spectre
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OK, so you admit you're extrapolating then? Cool.

Hal and Spectre engaged, Hal ended up powerless, Hal is defeated by a headlock and a regular arrow, Spectre still packs enough to juice to boost Damage up to Big Bang level of energy. And at no point was Spectre shown unconscious.
Try rebuttling my claims this time instead of yammering on.


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You can believe what you want to, I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, your opinion is yours. It's whatever. I'm just making it clear what you're claiming happened wasn't on panel. Probably why you haven't bothered to rebuttle my claims yet after several posts.


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Re: Parallax vs. Mad Jim Jaspers

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According to CBR, Parallax could just destroy reality


Only that's impossible against Jaspers 616.

Jaspers is immune to Universal nullification.

You can't destory the Universe Jaspers resides in either,
otherwise Merlyn (who could shatter the Omniverse altogether) would have.

No power atleast below Merlyn can touch Jaspers.

Merlyn = Omniversal buster.

Jaspers 238 > Merlyn (although this version of Jaspers was vulnerable to nullification)

Jaspers 616 >>> Merlyn

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or take Jaspers to un-space so he can't manipulate reality. [/B]


That's not that simple.

First we have to assume,
that Jaspers opponent is immune to Jaspers' power (like Fury)

Then we have to assume that Japsers' opponent
knows about his weakness.
(like Fury who figured it out with his uber adaptability)

Then we have to assume that Jaspers' opponent
knows where there is a Universe that has become Un-Reality due to nullification.
(like Fury who was IN the 238 Reality when it was nullified, this is why Fury knew)


Besides that,

this is current Jaspers (merged with Fury) I assume?

No one is taking Japsers anywhere under these circumstances,
for the Fury's teleportation capabilities are unparalleled in Marvel.
Well, it became extraordinary after it absorbed a cave sized computer.


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Ah the greatness of Jaspers...good stuff Mr Master.

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Parallax controls more than Reality. He Controls Time and all aspects of it. Able to erase it from any point in time. He was more powerful than Extant, who would give MJJ a good fight. I say Parallax just erased MJJ's family Line since MJJ didn't show power of the past.


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There you go ruining Jasper and his greatness. i will be back later to try and get the victory back on Jasper side.

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I say Parallax just erased MJJ's family Line since MJJ didn't show power of the past.


Time based attacks don't work on Jaspers.

Merlyn and even Roma had absolute control over Time,
but within Jaspers warp, the Concept of Time became Jaspers whim.

Jaspers rearranged the entire 616 Timeline, heck ... he became it.

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