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Beta Ray Bill (Runs the DC/Marvel Gauntlet)

Beta Ray Bill at his best showing, proved that he could take hits that drove him through a planet, in the Storm Breaker Mini Series. He took on a Medium level Herald Stardust and held his own. High end would be Tyrant in my guesstimate. So how far doe a non jobbing Beta Ray Bill get. Can he clear it? If not why not? In between fight he is fully healed.

In this scenario Bill is fighting for his people and has been placed under a spell. He sees the combatants as the same race of demons that threatened his race long ago.

1. Hawk (Remember Hawk and Dove? Well this is the male version of Hawk)
2. Tiger Shark
3. Aquaman
4. Wonderman
5. Atom Smasher
6. Namor (placed higher because of fighting ability, he is in a special hydrating suit for this battle)
7. Martian Manhunter
8. Hyperion Classic
9. Captain Atom (No exotic powers, like becoming the size of a planet)
10. Nova (Richard Rider)
11. Wonder Woman (Lasso, and Tiara only. No God Wave)
12 A. Gladiator (IMHO he is greater than all of the above)
12 B. Subject 17
13. Black Adam
14. Ravenous
15. Superman
16. Silver Surfer
17. Darkseid


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Hyperion above J'onn?

Ouch.

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Hyperion above J'onn?

Ouch.
Especially considering...
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I really tried to change it for you guys, but just ignore the mistake. Also the picture pretty much gives us a ballpark guess that even if Jonn was more powerful than Hyperion he may not be leaps and bounds moreso.


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So uhmmmmmm.... how far does he get?


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I really tried to change it for you guys, but just ignore the mistake. Also the picture pretty much gives us a ballpark guess that even if Jonn was more powerful than Hyperion he may not be leaps and bounds moreso.
Uh... anyway...

He gets to 13.
Ravenous above Adam?

And I don't even know who Subject 17 is, but he sounds like a robot, and robots smell (except Beta).


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I have some issues with the order but I see him getting to about adam

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he clears.


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Any one of 7-12 can stop him IMO.


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He stop at 16 and might could get past him also.


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He stop at 16 and might could get past him also.


He wont' ever get past Black Adam.


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He wont' ever get past Black Adam.


I think that he could and why is black adam before superman. Black adam would be more of a threat then superman would. I havent seen black adam yet throw out planet destroying hits whereas brb has done so.

I cant see black adam doing anything that could bring beta ray bill down. Im not going to lie, it would be a good fight but the hammer would prevail and k.o. or probably kill black adam. After that comes superman and I think that a couple of well placed hits could take him out, or brb does have other options. Superman only options in this fight would be his strength and I dont think that that is good enough bringing someone in brb bill caliber down. Everything else that superman has in his arsenal could easily be absorbed by the hammer. The same options cant be said for superman.

Silver surfer is the problem BUT I consider the two equals in terms of raw power and versatily. I would probably side with beta ray also since silver surfer on more than one occasion stated that thor was superior and beta ray bill and thor are equals (except brb dont hold back).

I think that he stops or get past number 16 and give 17 a very good fight.


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I think that he could and why is black adam before superman. Black adam would be more of a threat then superman would. I havent seen black adam yet throw out planet destroying hits whereas brb has done so.

I cant see black adam doing anything that could bring beta ray bill down. Im not going to lie, it would be a good fight but the hammer would prevail and k.o. or probably kill black adam. After that comes superman and I think that a couple of well placed hits could take him out, or brb does have other options. Superman only options in this fight would be his strength and I dont think that that is good enough bringing someone in brb bill caliber down. Everything else that superman has in his arsenal could easily be absorbed by the hammer. The same options cant be said for superman.

Silver surfer is the problem BUT I consider the two equals in terms of raw power and versatily. I would probably side with beta ray also since silver surfer on more than one occasion stated that thor was superior and beta ray bill and thor are equals (except brb dont hold back).

I think that he stops or get past number 16 and give 17 a very good fight.


Black Adam's durability is magic resistant and he's got the power to crash the face of the spectre if he really cuts loose with his magical powers. BRB wont' make it past BA. BRB doesn't use his head too often in a fight with someone like BA.


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Black Adam's durability is magic resistant and he's got the power to crash the face of the spectre if he really cuts loose with his magical powers. BRB wont' make it past BA. BRB doesn't use his head too often in a fight with someone like BA.


We dont go by people using there heads because if we're going by that then superman dont use his head when fighting people since on the forum he does have the ability to blitz people but rarely does so in comics.

From the beta ray bill fights I have been seeing, he has been doing quite well. If he didnt use his head when he was fighting star dust he would have been dead. Who's to say that brb, superman, wonderwoman, captain marvel, I'll go as far as wonderman, dont have the ability to burst through spectre face. If you go a certain speed you have the ability to do a lot of things. Just look at superman, he finally did something that is on a moon destroying level and flew through a moon going at great speed but I cant see superman standing on top of the moon punching it, destroying it.

It would be a good fight but brb is to versatile and has everything that black adam has plus interest.


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We dont go by people using there heads because if we're going by that then superman dont use his head when fighting people since on the forum he does have the ability to blitz people but rarely does so in comics.

From the beta ray bill fights I have been seeing, he has been doing quite well. If he didnt use his head when he was fighting star dust he would have been dead. Who's to say that brb, superman, wonderwoman, captain marvel, I'll go as far as wonderman, dont have the ability to burst through spectre face. If you go a certain speed you have the ability to do a lot of things. Just look at superman, he finally did something that is on a moon destroying level and flew through a moon going at great speed but I cant see superman standing on top of the moon punching it, destroying it.

It would be a good fight but brb is to versatile and has everything that black adam has plus interest.


BA used his magic powers to burst the Spectre's face open. Not strength. We will have to disagree on the rest of the post.


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BA used his magic powers to burst the Spectre's face open. Not strength. We will have to disagree on the rest of the post.


So basically youre telling me that beta ray bill dont have the power to burst through spectre face. Can you tell me where your getting this from.

Also answer this for me, do you think that black adam has the power to one shot a planet. If he does, can you provide proof that any dc top tiers have planet destroying punches. Im not asking for sky fathers, I want to see only top tiers because from the way that it sounds it seems like your trying to say that black adam is stronger then brb when theres nothing to back that assumption up.


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So basically youre telling me that beta ray bill dont have the power to burst through spectre face. Can you tell me where your getting this from.

Also answer this for me, do you think that black adam has the power to one shot a planet. If he does, can you provide proof that any dc top tiers have planet destroying punches. Im not asking for sky fathers, I want to see only top tiers because from the way that it sounds it seems like your trying to say that black adam is stronger then brb when theres nothing to back that assumption up.


What Planet Busting Feats does BRB have? I mean, like one shotting a planet with his FIST. STorm breaker did the work. THus, BA is stronger than BRB in my eyes.


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Any one of 7-12 can stop him IMO.


I agree. He can defeat and get defeated by each one of them. After that, he gets no wins.

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What Planet Busting Feats does BRB have? I mean, like one shotting a planet with his FIST. STorm breaker did the work. THus, BA is stronger than BRB in my eyes.


Black adam havent proven yet to be stronger than brb until they tug a war are arm wrestle each other. I have yet to see brb struggle against anything and the same can be said for black adam, so how am I to know along with you that black adam is stronger. I guess youre saying that because black adam is from dc, if thats the case then your bias.

You are right storm breaker did destroy 2 planets but what do you think that beta ray bill is going to be hitting black adam with, I hope you werent thinking it was only going to be his fist. Every hit that the hammer makes upon black is going to be a planet destroying hit and that should be enough to take ba out of the fight.

In my eyes brb is much more powerful and far to versatile but if it was a 10/10 fight I could see ba getting some wins but its not so Im giving the edge to brb.


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I agree. He can defeat and get defeated by each one of them. After that, he gets no wins.


I truly disagree but I do agree with the fact that he would struggle far more with ba then with superman and silver surfer.


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