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LMAO. IG in THanos hands was shown as universal. Hell, it was universal in the magus's hands, barring that rediculous theory that it pwning the Un somehow made it mutliversal. Now at it's best it would be maybe multiversal. While EJ simply was omniversal. He beat the Quintessence, and Bitched the spectre. Plus, the Prime DC reality houses all of the power of the DC verses.
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YOu failed at every turn. Mxy has beaten spectre a few times on panel. At his best. So um, Mxy's power would be at least equal to the Spectre's own near matchless might. And The quintessence seem to be far beyond skyfather lvl beings. Look at what thier power was able to do in Gog. He was able to breach hypertime and play with time like it was nothing. And that was just a fraction of thier combined power. Highfather created Takion who is More powerful than any skyfather I know. Unless thier are skyfathers who can actually put up any kind of fight against multiversal power. And yes the Joker was omniversal. Caging the Spectre AND becoming him breifly. So um yeah. The IG user is the loser of this thread. As for Magus controlling the 616 and his other creation, lest we not forget he already had the copy in his control with the CC's. Did he all of a sudden give them up?
1) Galactus, who has the power to potentially destroy an entire universe at full range, admitted his power is nothing compared to IG.
2) Magus controlled energies of UN with a single command. UN is multiversal in power. Get over it NVR
3) Thanos affected and created alternate universes as well. Have you read the issues of Silver Surfer, where Thanos forces Death to love him with the IG ? Where he created the world of Necronos to sacrafice every single sentient being in the universe..for eternity.
This was an alternate reality, where Thanos decided to use his power in such an abusive way...however, it was mainstream Silver Sufer. Thanos lived multiple realities at once when he had IG. Until he lost the IG, those realities became null and void.
4) The Cosmic Cube gives you control over a universe, yet it's own power doesn't compare to the IG.
5) Living Tribunal does not get involved in an affair that is purely universal. One universe' death means nothing to him. It is when one universe becomes a threat to another universe, or more, he gets involved. In inter-universal matters, not intra-universal matters.
When Thanos had the IG, LT knew Thanos was staying within his own universe, and therefore had violated nothing. "Survival of the Fittest" he justified it as.
The IG is ATLEAST Multiversal in power.
Emporer Joker is not omniversal in power
Beating Spectre is not as impressive as you are tyring to make it. Nabu had done it before, even Eclipso got the better of Spectre. Spectre's power fluctuates. In actuality, if he needed to beat Emporer Joker, he could have so at full power.
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Are you ok? Nabu is a mutliversal being. Eclipso was the Wrath of God. What makes you think either of those guys are slouches? The weakest version of the Spectre could beat the Ig wielder. He was still more than multiversal. Kthanksbye. You fail to realize that the joker created his own realities over and over. He twisted the cosmos in his image. He even took the spectre's place. Thanos with the IG is OVERRATED. Hell the IG is overrated based purely on that silly lil un thing. Especially since it's said on panel that the UN would destroy the universe. It wasn't used for multiversal purpose until much later.
Emp Joker takes this easily. he toys with thanos, takes death and remakes her into a sex slave to piss him off then just kills him over and over and over, and possibly keeps the IG around. maybe throwing it at random people when life gets to boring and he wants to smack down some random punk on a power high. eh emp joker rocks.
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