Yea, I was thinking about this last night wondering if Magneto actually could manipulate Ronan's hammer, and the reason I said he couldn't is b/c I remember reading once something to the effect of the Ultimate Weapon only answering to him.
I could very well be wrong, and maybe Mags can affect his hammer. However, we have seen Ronan recreate his weapon out of thin air. So if Mags decides to BFR it, Ronan does have that option.
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Hmm.. Did not know that.
Recreating his ultimate weapon out of thin air is certainly a big advantage in this fight.. I wonder if his only able to do that with his Original weapon..
I know the one in his possesion in the Annihilation series was the weaker version but i dont know if he was able to take back his original. I thought it was destroyed..
I still say stroke..lols can take em out..
Mags doesnt have to destroy the weapon just keep it away from Ronan.. Ala Thor vs Mag's fight...
If Ronan truly has matter manipulation, this his control over metal even will far outdo Magneto's. Just because Magneto is limited to metal does not make him the be-all-and-end-all with metal. If Ronan can create matter out of thin air, Magneto isn't going to be able to take anything out of his control, metal or otherwise.
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Thor would kill Magneto. Magneto has to grab ahold of the hammer magnetically to take it away from Thor. Thor's hammer can just absorb the very energies Magneto is trying to use to take the hammer from him. Magneto is so outclassed against Thor and, from what I have read thus far, he's way out of his league with Ronan as well.
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I dont think magneto is COMPLETELY outclassed by Thor, he has been able to control his hammer magnetically and Magneto is impervious to Electricity based attacks. However, Magneto's shields will crack under a Godblast(Does Thor need his Hammer to do this?) and if Thor gets his hands on Magneto he is doomed.
As for the fight, I am gonna call it 7/10 in favor of Magneto, Ronin did lose to US Agent after all.
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Ronan does have minor matter manipulation but creating something out of thin air I've never seen em do it on panel.. In fact the only matter manipulation I've seen em do is de-armored someone..
Mags control over metal is a form of matter manipulation, it overshadows Ronans MM.. 1 point for Mags.. He is the be-all-end-all with metal..
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I was just taking a scenario, when Mags fought Thor.. He held aloft Thors hammer, he can do the same to Ronans..
Ronans awesome powers comes from Kree-tech (composed of metallic parts) an advantage to Mags powerset, take all that away his not totally out of his league.. That is what differentiate Thor and Ronan..
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The first scan is the one i refered to as de-armoring someone, i considered it minor because he did not recreate but destroyed it. Similar to the last scan when Torch melted his hammer..
Must not have been his original Weapon otherwise it wouldnt have been melted that easy by Torch..
I still say its a good fight and im leanin towards Mags due to Ronans dependency towards his armors and weapons made purely with metal..
According to the character he was fighting in that first scan, he has fought "demi-gods and celestials, and transversed realities".
Seems to me that completely rearranging the molecular structure of someone who has "battled celestials and transverse realities" is a pretty major matter manipulation feat.
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i still think this is a good match up. given some of mags feats in the last 5 yrs or so, this match is a very tough call imo. think i'd favor mags. either way, deserving of a bump imo.
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Apr 1st, 2008 04:09 AM
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, but a couple panels later he recreates his weapon out of "thin air", I promise...lol
