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beyonder vs imperiex

who wins

May 3rd, 2008 07:47 PM

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Is this classic Beyonder?

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either beyonder wins. classic is around lt lvl. the current is at least multiversal.

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How is Beyonder multiversal? He cannot touch Galactus.

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Beyonder is amused by imperiux but kills him for not amusing him enough. lol

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Classic Beyonder was leagues above LT, Current Beyonder is a notch below LT but still more powerful than Imperiux.

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Current Beyonder from what we know tricked the Illuminatri (created a fictional reality of earth on astroid)

Classic wins ofcause.

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Current Beyonder is a only a notch below the Lt?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by the Darkone
Classic Beyonder was leagues above LT, Current Beyonder is a notch below LT but still more powerful than Imperiux.

ha ha ha ha. classic beyonder imagined the whole thing. and he didn't even have sense enough to actually fight the lt. so how do we know he's above the lt. what did he do that the lt cannot? nothing. case closed. i thought this forum argued things that actually happened in the comics. not what is fan based speculation and what we wish things to be.

May 3rd, 2008 11:15 PM

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classic wins, current Imperiex wins

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Classic Beyonder and current Beyonder wins this hands down.

May 5th, 2008 11:31 PM

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Classic Beyonder wins, current looses. Imperiex was an "Omni-temporal" threat.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by fangirl101
ha ha ha ha. classic beyonder imagined the whole thing. and he didn't even have sense enough to actually fight the lt. so how do we know he's above the lt. what did he do that the lt cannot? nothing. case closed. i thought this forum argued things that actually happened in the comics. not what is fan based speculation and what we wish things to be.

Classic Beyonder is the Beyonder before the retcon which weakened him. In other words, before it was written that he dreamed it dreamed it.

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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Classic Beyonder is the Beyonder before the retcon which weakened him. In other words, before it was written that he dreamed it dreamed it.

Exactly. If we say Classic Beyonder it means before the retcon but if we say current Beyonder we acknowledge the retcon.

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Current Beyonder should win, but like Galan noted. I'll read more on Imperiex

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May 6th, 2008 12:23 AM

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Where is it stated that Beyonder dreamed up Secret Wars?

That's a lie folks.

The retcon depowered Beyonder,
but MOST of what Beyonder did during Secret Wars is Canon, 100%.

From erasing Death from the Universe,
to giving Rachel the Full power of the Phoenix Force,
to creating an entire Universe, separate but weaker than Eternity.

Beyonder is the embodiment of this Universe.

Beyonder operates on a Multiversal scale.

In fact, Beyonder has even cause damaged on a Multi-Universal scale.

This is all POST Retcon Beyonder.

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The only event that was nullified in the retcon,
was Beyonder defeating the Celestials,
and Beyonder scaring the cosmic hierarchy.

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REALLY!?

So Beyonder is still Multiversal, at a level beyond the universal Aspects? Where would you place him then?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx

REALLY!?

So Beyonder is still Multiversal, at a level beyond the universal Aspects?

Current Beyonder can not destroy the Multiverse. (Eternity is more powerful)

But it seems Beyonder is more powerful than aspects of Eternity (single realities)

I'm not absolutely sure though cause he hasn't defeated one on panel yet,
but Beyonder definitely is capable of "Multiversal tamperings" (As Eternity put it)

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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx

Where would you place him then?

The embodiment of an entire Universe,
that can operate on a Multiversal scale,
and affect reality on a Multi-Universal scale. (not an entire Multiverse simultaneously)

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