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Emma Frost runs the Gauntlet

Emma Frost faces the following opponents in telepathic battles only.
She's restored to full health after each battle. She can take the battle to the Astral Plane if she wishes. How far does she make it?

1.) Aquaman
2.) M
3.) Psylocke (Crimson dawn)
4.) No-Girl (Martha)
5.) Mr. Sinister
6.) The Three-in-One
7.) Gorilla Grodd
8.) Exodus
9.) Elias Bogan
10.) Shadow King

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How the hell will she beat M who is a mutant with the power of "perfection"??


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Honestly, she probably doesn't make it past Psylocke. At least, in my opinion.

Could be wrong though.


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Psylocke has never been remotely as skilled a telepath as Emma Frost. Nor has she been depicted as more powerful...


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And yet able to completely contain the Shadow King using only her telepathy?


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I don't know what you mean by "only." Her psionic powers have always been either telepathy or telekinesis never both.

The Shadow King stretched himself thin figuratively speaking, leaving his personal psionic nexus unguarded. She managed to find and contain this nexus with the totality of her telepathic powers; and as a consequence trapped him in the astral plane. (In a battle on the astral plane, Emma wouldn't make this same mistake)

In an all out telepathic battle, with his full attention on her I doubt Psylocke would fare well against the Shadow King.

In recent times Emma has been shown blocking an upgraded Xavier and Exodus from using their powers. And Exodus considers her alongside himself, Sinister, Phoenix and Xavier with regard to telepathic prowess.

Psylocke's telepathy was always more rooted in the physical. She lacks the more traditional feats of skill and power that most other telepaths have in abundance.


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Originally posted by Glorificus
Emma Frost faces the following opponents in telepathic battles only.
She's restored to full health after each battle. She can take the battle to the Astral Plane if she wishes. How far does she make it?

1.) Aquaman
2.) M
3.) Psylocke (Crimson dawn)
4.) No-Girl (Martha)
5.) Mr. Sinister
6.) The Three-in-One
7.) Gorilla Grodd
8.) Exodus
9.) Elias Bogan
10.) Shadow King


lopsided gauntlet, imo...


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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't know what you mean by "only." Her psionic powers have always been either telepathy or telekinesis never both.

The Shadow King stretched himself thin figuratively speaking, leaving his personal psionic nexus unguarded. She managed to find and contain this nexus with the totality of her telepathic powers; and as a consequence trapped him in the astral plane. (In a battle on the astral plane, Emma wouldn't make this same mistake)

In an all out telepathic battle, with his full attention on her I doubt Psylocke would fare well against the Shadow King.

In recent times Emma has been shown blocking an upgraded Xavier and Exodus from using their powers. And Exodus considers her alongside himself, Sinister, Phoenix and Xavier with regard to telepathic prowess.

Psylocke's telepathy was always more rooted in the physical. She lacks the more traditional feats of skill and power that most other telepaths have in abundance.


Hm. Okay. I concede. Crimson Dawn Psylocke really didn't have the same number of feats. I've always considered the containing of the Shadow King to be pretty damn impressive though.

However, she has had both TP and TK. She just sacrificed her TP to contain the Shadow King and focused on her TK then.

It's a good thing that the thread-starter clarified what version of Psyocke. Current Psylocke wouldn't have a problem with Emma, as she is immune to telepathy.


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Nah, that's a common misconception. Psylocke was originally (a precog and) telepathic. She didn't become a telekinetic until she somehow wound up with Jean's telekinesis. I don't recall there ever being Psylocke with both powers.

And yeh, Psylocke has some good showings, from before her body switch in Inferno iirc and the Shadow King feat. But she doesn't have the depth of showings that Emma does.


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Nah, that's a common misconception. Psylocke was originally (a precog and) telepathic. She didn't become a telekinetic until she somehow wound up with Jean's telekinesis.

And yeh, Psylocke has some good showings, from before her body switch in Inferno iirc and the Shadow King feat. But she doesn't have the depth of showings that Emma does.


It's not a misconception for me--I knew that was how she got her TK, but I just honestly forgot that she gained Jean's TK pretty soon after she sacrificed her TP. Basically, my timeline for Psylocke was messed up. stick out tongue


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The timeline for Psylocke in general is messed up anyway... body swaps, power swaps, deaths and rebirths. Bleh. Senile Claremont.

As for the thread... the gauntlet is kind of out of order... and I can't be bothered assigning definitive numbers to any of the fights...


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I`m going to have to come back to this thread in the next few months using this damn phone to keep tabs on comic related news is a bit of a pain.
Btw That Shadow King feat is being overplayed re-read the last few pages of X-Men 78 to see how she won that, any telepath in those circumstances would have won that bout, Off topic but there`s concept art for an alternate ending on the net involving Batsy`s death and Jean, I`ll post it when I`m back at home, Also M has been downed by Emma before, Sorry for the rant but Tp Betsy is not even fit to shine Emma`s shoes.
Note to self add UXM 500 feat & potential Legacy Xavier fight to respect thread,


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he might have trouble with Mr Sinister and Exodus, possibly the 3 in 1, but if karma could beat the shadow king, then Emma certainly can.


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Why is Aquaman first? She doesnt get passed him.


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Stops at Sinister.

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Why is Aquaman first? She doesnt get passed him.
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Why is Aquaman first? She doesnt get passed him.


If she doesn't psi blast him, all his water does is make her diamond form shiny. and she could always resort to feminine charm... shifty


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I think Emma vs Sinister would be a very very drawn out battle. Pretty close but i see Sinister outlasting or luring her into a trap in his mind for a majority.

If she get past Essex she can make it to Exodus. She can hold Bennet for a while, but not very long.


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Why is Aquaman first? She doesnt get passed him.


Aquaman is pretty awesome but not that awesome.


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Nah, that's a common misconception. Psylocke was originally (a precog and) telepathic. She didn't become a telekinetic until she somehow wound up with Jean's telekinesis. I don't recall there ever being Psylocke with both powers.

And yeh, Psylocke has some good showings, from before her body switch in Inferno iirc and the Shadow King feat. But she doesn't have the depth of showings that Emma does.
The body swap was a little bit after inferno.

She goes through the Siege Perilous in Uncanny 251 and then we see her again in 257 as a hand assassin calling herself Lady Mandarin.

If you need a name to put to the story arc at the time it's Acts of Vengence


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