You realize that more strength should equal a much higher top speed. Which would put Spidey and his 15 tons atop all of the running categories (better off the starting gun too due to spidey-sense and reflexes). And a 10K isn't long enough for him to tire enough for it to matter to guys like Cap who don't tire. And strength also equals higher jumps and throws.
So Pete sweeps. Unless for some reason we're saying Beast is stronger, which some seem to think but has never been confirmed by either words or feats. Really, he should just be taken out to make it more competitive.
Well, not always, but if you have someone who is many magnitudes stronger than anyone else in the field (15 tons compared to maybe 2 tons max for anyone else there), they're going to be able to push themselves forward with far more force.
Other factors are involved in running, true. But leg strength is part of it, and a difference this big is going to be insurmountable for the rest. Olympic runners have massive leg strength. there's a reason for that. Less so with distance runners, but given the endurance of everyone here, even the 10K would be closer to a sprint than a distance race. You'd have to go toward marathon length before I'd start to consider it an equalizer for Pete's leg strength.
Sorry, Goblin is stronger than 2 tons. Maybe Omega Red too. Reflexes should also equal a far higher turnover rate to his legs than the others, so he'd pretty much stomp any of the runs, even with people closer to him in strength.
youre right, however experience plays a factor too, i nevents like hurdling I can easily see the less experienced hurdles leaping over the hurdles (thus slowing them down a lot) which I why I see black panther as winning the hurdles (I think he might be the only one with a backround i ntrack and field)
Lulz. Pete could bound over the hurdles 5 at a time in about half a second and be done with the race (doesn't matter how you get over them). Mind telling me how T'Challa beats that?
Or how Goblin's 10 tons out-throws Pete's 15 (or more, depending on the source)? Or how Pete doesn't push off the pole vault at the top for another 50 feet or so?
Cap in the long race is the only defensable non-Spidey event winner. Like I said, he's out of place in this thread.
xactly, bounding over hurdles creates a large wind resistance and slows down that racer tremendously, by the time pete touched the ground again he'd be in last place.
this is precisely the reason why you dont bound/jump over hurdles, you hurdle hurdles.
No, we hurdle the hurdles because human beings can't jump further. Your wind resistance is exactly the same running as it would be in the air. Did you know that real-world Olympic sprinters are actually off the ground entirely more than they are touching it? You're actually talking about accelleration, which can't be aceived in the air. But it wouldn't matter due to Pete's strength difference.
Pete could clear 110 feet in two forwards leaps, and about 2-3 seconds, which wouldn't have to take him more than a foot or two above the hurdles. Your physics lesson would apply if we were talking about comparable power sets, where small factors would count. but we're not. Pete would be leaping with dozens of times the force of T-Challa's first push-off, if not hundreds of times more. Wind resistance all you want....BP's screwed. By a lot, at that.
have you hurdled before? the way people hit records is because they stay i nthe air as short as possible, the longer yo ustay i nthe air the slower you are.
olympic hurdles are barely off the ground
take a look at liu xiang:
hurdle training makes the point that you have to slap down your leg as soon as possible so you get in the air. jumping is the last thing you want to do,
spiderman jumps through the air he slowly slows down while everyone else is only picking up speed, hed come in last. trust me if people jumped they could get a lot farther away fro mthe hurdle, but hats not what you want. you want to be as close to the hurdle really as possible, yo uwant to be doing most of the race on your feet not in the air.
Any of our opinions would be a complete guess, so it's not really important. What is important is that we know the ratio of leg strength between the competitors, and thus know that whatever MPH it would be for Spidey, it would be far less for anyone else on this list.
DestinyGuy's knowledge of sprinting is fairly standard, and I've conceded that he has a valid point. But the runners that he is showing are all of very comparable levels of speed, reflexes, and strength. Put someone with 2x the reflexes, 5x the strength on the track with those guys. You wouldn't need perfect form. You wouldn't need to be close to it. And keep in mind, the 2x and 5x are being ridiculously generous to Spidey's competitors. And as stated before, he wouldn't even need proper technique. He can cover close to 100m in a single leap. And not a looping, high leap, which would be needed for the physics-based argument to hold ground, but a straightforward one that just barely clears the hurdles. His rate of accelleration and topspeed would be so far beyond the others that he'd have a few second to wait before the 2nd place finisher came in (sans perhaps Goblin).
It's like having an overhead lifting competition between Thing and Spider-Man, then arguing that the Thing wouldn't use proper lifting technique, while Spidey would, and would thus win. It's equally as preposterous in this thread.
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Yeah, Spidey isn't just strong, he is light and super agile and springy. He would clean house in any running/jumping events, with possible exception on very long distance running because I'm not sure of the endurance capabilities of everybody else. He may still win that too. He strength would really do well in the throwing events too. Keep in mind that the shot/discus/javelin will be so ridiculously light to these people that it becomes more of a speed event as well--like us throwing a small rock or ball.
Care to explain how faster reflexes and greater leg strength equate to a lower top speed? I'm not trying to be difficult, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
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