Using his superior reflexes and brain speed, Magneto gets the first attack off in this fight and straight up mind rapes Iceman.
Yes, you heard me correctly... mind rapes him. I'm sick and tired of this bullshit KMC version of Iceman, AKA "Blair Wind's" Iceman being the norm for how he's portrayed in threads. 1 out of every 100 showings that Bobby has, you'll get a type of feat worthy of KMC Iceman. So rather than there being a double standard here, it's only fair that we make this uber Magneto where his tip top, 1 in a 100 showings are used as well. In other words... Magneto BFRs Iceman through a wormhole, he sucks the life out of him, he mind rapes him, etc.
And if you don't think Magneto has telepathy or telepathic feats, then drag your lazy ass to the Magneto respect thread and start looking. And don't tell me telepathy wouldn't work, dammit; we've already seen Emma Frost completely take control of Bobby's mind before.
End of the mother f*ckin rant.
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You mean...his HUMAN form? More proof of how powerful Iceman really is my friend. Exploding in human form then instantly switching to mist was something he had never done.
What is a shield? Its like a wall. If he can manipulate behind the "wall" then he can manipulate behind the shield. And seeing as he can slow down molecules and exist as water vapor after being destroyed/evaporated/put in someones body/teleported into solid material, how or what is Mags going to do to him? He can keep coming back from anything Mags can do. Which btw, he was amped for the wormholes right? Or am I wrong? Besides, Iceman has "teleported" from something shrinking so small it made its own "black hole". You do not give Iceman his credit young padawan.
And the TP, wasnt that only his helmet? I recall him talking to Doom about that. He can block TP, using it himself is not something he can do well at all.
Besides, currently, hes powerless. Ha. Iceman wins by default
About your rant: I think you are just jealous that I started a pro Iceman KMC and everyone still hates Mags
That and the last time we had this debate you never finished even after finding the scan you said you were waiting for.
He didn’t switch to mist. He evaporated and then re-condensed himself. And in any case, it most certainly wasn’t instant. Bobby was extremely hurt, and needed medical attention; at one point proclaiming that he “couldn’t breathe.” That would still count as a win. All Magneto has to do is incapacitate him to the point where he can’t fight back, just like in that scenario.
Not that it’s imperative to Magneto winning a fight against Bobby, but do you have any proof that Bobby can manipulate something through an energy field? Or for that matter, project his consciousness through an energy field? It’s not exactly as simple as a “wall.” Not even teleportation allows a person to get through Magneto’s em shields. Trying to say that Bobby could get through his force field is speculation at best.
What could Magneto do to win this? He could rip Bobby’s body apart molecule by molecule. Then after Bobby has to re-condense himself, he’ll be extremely hurt and in need of medical assistance. This process can be repeated if necessary. Or he could wrap a bubble of electromagnetic energy around him, and shoot him into space. And again, I have serious doubts that Iceman would be able to “teleport” out of one of Magneto’s force fields; or for that matter, do anything else to get out. Telepathy as I mentioned earlier is always an option. Or he could BFR him through a wormhole. Btw Blair, it’s not the idea that Bobby is going to be “sucked” into a wormhole, but instead, forced into one. And no, he wasn’t “amped” when he created the wormhole.
Padawan… ?
No, it isn’t just his helmet. He has natural telepathy. He’s shown on panel feats of mind control, mind probing, astral projection, astral manipulation, etc.
I’m not jealous. It’s not exactly a pro Iceman KMC, but rather, people just continue to overrate him. Demigawd did the same thing to Magneto when he was a regular poster.
And in the other thread, I’m pretty sure I was the last one to make a comment.
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People need to make clear distinctions about things:
When blown up in HUMAN form, it hurts him to recreate himself. This has happened on panel with Northstar
When blown up/evaporated or "transmuted" into water/mist in ICE form (Sentinels, teleported into a wall, exploding arrow, some vampire/pyro guy) he can reconstruct himself easily. No pain involved.
Teleportation and what Bobby does are similar things but not exact. The thing that you must remember here is that in the Marvel universe teleporters (most notably Nightcrawler who goes against Magneto most out of all the teleporters I know) travel along magnetic lines. THAT is why teleportation does not go through, because he does not allow it. What Bobby does is not related to magnetic lines in the least, therefore has nothing to do with the picture.
Bobby does not direct a "line" of cold. Say he wanted to freeze a can of soda fifty feet away. He does not need to lower the temperature in the fifty feet between him and the soda. He can lower the temperature of the soda in and of itself. Therefore, any magnetic "walls" would really be....nothing. It would be as if it did not exist. Lowering Magneto's very own molecules so he becomes a living statue ftw.
Because ice does not exist in space....?
Look, the thing is, Iceman can exist as water vapor, and as good as Magneto is, he would not be able to tell what water vapor was "Iceman water vapor" and what water vapor was just water vapor. Any and all physical attacks would prove useless as he can exist as water vapor, water, or reconstruct himself rather easily once in Ice form.
I'll admit, any physical attacks on Magneto would prove useless. However, any direct slowing of Magneto's molecules, or existing inside of him and then literally exploding from inside of him (as he has done to someone before) or any other method of attack and he would win.
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