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AsbestosFlaygon
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Cassandra Cain VS Captain America

Current Batgirl
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The original Steve Rogers

Who wins?

Bloodlust to the EXTREME!

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Rogers FTW


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CC cool

She can predict your moves innately!

By an opponent using the slightest body movements she's able to read them as easy as you or I would say a sentence. Which IMO is superior to just having higher base stats, when it comes to a H2H contest with professionals.

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CC cool

She can predict your moves innately!

By an opponent using the slightest body movements she's able to read them as easy as you or I would say a sentence. Which IMO is superior to just having higher base stats, when it comes to a H2H contest with professionals.


As cool as Cassandras powers are, it would be cooler seeing Cap find a way to beat her even though she could read his moves,,,,,,,,,and he would find a way to win.


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Captain America will find a way -

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With standard weapons, I'd take Cap 7/10. In pure H2H, I'd take Cain 8-9/10.


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With standard weapons, I'd take Cap 7/10. In pure H2H, I'd take Cain 8-9/10.


He still wins even if its pure h2h hand DD can read his moves when he goes up against A-listers he gets punched up just like everybody else.

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Cap takes this. The guy is enhanced unlike Cass. He heals faster, is faster, stronger, smarter.

He has every advantage physically and mentally.

Cap 7/10

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Cap takes this. The guy is enhanced unlike Cass. He heals faster, is faster, stronger, smarter.

He has every advantage physically and mentally.

Cap 7/10


Uh......you do realize that Cass is basically metahuman in everything but name, right?


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Uh......you do realize that Cass is basically metahuman in everything but name, right?


so that means?

Reflex
Agility
Speed
Strength
Durability
Combat tactics
Experience
Which one does she trump Cap in again?


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Uh......you do realize that Cass is basically metahuman in everything but name, right?



Nope. She is a ringer in speed/agility like Daredevil. But she is not meta strong or meta durable. Thats why her strength/ durability feats are lame compared to Batman.


You do realize this....right?

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Originally posted by Juk3n
so that means?

Reflex
Agility
Speed
Strength
Durability
Combat tactics
Experience
Which one does she trump Cap in again?


I didn't post that to state her superiority, just that the difference in some attributes (speed, reflexes, and skill) isn't so vast that she couldn't best him. Cap is stronger, but Cass has gone up against foes stronger than her (Bizarro Supergirl and probably Lady Shiva) and managed to best them. Like I said, with standard weapons, I'd take Steve, but without them, I like Cain's skill over Cap's.


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I didn't post that to state her superiority, just that the difference in some attributes (speed, reflexes, and skill) isn't so vast that she couldn't best him. Cap is stronger, but Cass has gone up against foes stronger than her (Bizarro Supergirl and probably Lady Shiva) and managed to best them. Like I said, with standard weapons, I'd take Steve, but without them, I like Cain's skill over Cap's.


Shiva sure, but her besting Bizzaro Supes smells of PIS.

Caps more skill full than Sentry, but er you think he'd ever stand a chance?

just sayin'


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Definitely for marital artist I'd wager Cass is the better. But better fighter and better martial artists are two different things.


For starters Cap has way more experience then Cass fighting constantly in WW2 every day and then the many decade time loops in the Korvac saga were he gained 100's of years of experience or more.

Plus Caps enhanced mind for fighting and adapting. I just don't see Cass winning in a hand to hand fight.

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Cap.


Rogers wins this without too much difficulty.

he's guaranteed to be stronger and faster than she is due to the serum, and has fought literally everyone there is to fight within the marvel U and usually wins. There isn't a fighting style she could come up with that he wouldn't be familiar with.

Rogers has even gone toe to toe with spiderman, who's speed and strength are not only vastly superior to batgirl, but has his "own style" not found anywhere.

also consider that rogers' body does not produce fatigue poisons either- his stamina is near limitless. Cain is still human, and doesn't have this advantage. Even if they were dead even in terms of skill (debatable) she'd wear out first.

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Same situation with Batman. Batgirl will beat Cap w/ the utility belt and gadgets.

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Rogers wins this without too much difficulty.

he's guaranteed to be stronger and faster than she is due to the serum, and has fought literally everyone there is to fight within the marvel U and usually wins. There isn't a fighting style she could come up with that he wouldn't be familiar with.

Rogers has even gone toe to toe with spiderman, who's speed and strength are not only vastly superior to batgirl, but has his "own style" not found anywhere.

also consider that rogers' body does not produce fatigue poisons either- his stamina is near limitless. Cain is still human, and doesn't have this advantage. Even if they were dead even in terms of skill (debatable) she'd wear out first.



Great points.

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