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The Presence against The Heart of the Infinite

The Presence and The Heart of the Infinite both have God-like powers. But who do you think is more powerful?

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The Heart of the Infinite No longer exist. So it certainly wasn't anything close to God's power.


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I hope this isnt here to start something. These sort of threads always do. They have been done to death in the past anyways.


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PR Beyonder wins.


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The Heart of the Infinite No longer exist. So it certainly wasn't anything close to God's power.


Why doesn't it exist anymore?


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It went bye-bye after Thanos recreated the Universe.


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Wasn't The Heart of the Infinite suppose to be the power of the rest of the entire universe combined and the Presence has basically the power of the entire universe?

So if that's true then to me The Heart of the Infinite would just be a part of the Presence's power correct?
As big a part as all the rest combined but still just a part right?


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Wasn't The Heart of the Infinite suppose to be
the power of the rest of the entire universe combined
and the Presence has basically the power of the entire universe?

THOTI was God's power, the Supreme power of the Marvel Universe.

Thanos became, what the Presence is in DC, that is ... the Supreme being.
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So if that's true
then to me The Heart of the Infinite would just be a part of the Presence's power correct?
As big a part as all the rest combined but still just a part right?

?

The Presence has nothing to do with the HOTI.


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Why doesn't it exist anymore?

Because Thanos erased it from existence,
Thanos was able to this, because he and the HOTI were one.

"If you control a thing ... you can destroy a thing."


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Because Thanos erased it from existence,
Thanos was able to this, because he and the HOTI were one.

"If you control a thing ... you can destroy a thing."

If you are one, then how can you destroy the very thing that you are? If you destroy the thing that is supposed to be the origin of all energy, all life, the God of everything, then destroying it would mean the destruction of everything. With no return.

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THOTI was God's power, the Supreme power of the Marvel Universe.

Thanos became, what the Presence is in DC, that is ... the Supreme being.

?

The Presence has nothing to do with the HOTI.


The Supreme being in Marvel is TOAA and it created THOTU, it is not equal with another Supreme being in another universe unless you think it makes THOTU = TOAA. confused


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The Supreme being in Marvel is TOAA and it created THOTU, it is not equal with another Supreme being in another universe unless you think it makes THOTU = TOAA. confused

I think he does.

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If you are one, then how can you destroy the very thing that you are? If you destroy the thing that is supposed to be the origin of all energy, all life, the God of everything, then destroying it would mean the destruction of everything. With no return.

THOTI wasn't really destroyed, it was converted or change into the reborn universe. It was all balance out in Thanos creation.


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THOTI wasn't really destroyed, it was converted or change into the reborn universe. It was all balance out in Thanos creation.

Thanos created nothing. What he did was a glorified version of the UN.

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The Heart of the Infinite No longer exist. So it certainly wasn't anything close to God's power.
What does that matter for the sake of this thread?
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The Supreme being in Marvel is TOAA and it created THOTU, it is not equal with another Supreme being in another universe unless you think it makes THOTU = TOAA. confused
TOAA is a person. It isnt an on panel creation unless that person imagines something like that in the comic. Real life people are always greater than the drawings.
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Thanos created nothing. What he did was a glorified version of the UN.
Huh? I cant even figure out what you are even talking about anymore.


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Originally posted by fangirl101
Thanos created nothing. What he did was a glorified version of the UN.


Say what you said here out loud to yourself.


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They have exactly equal power.


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The Presence > Michael > Thanos w/THOTU.

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What does that matter for the sake of this thread? TOAA is a person. It isnt an on panel creation unless that person imagines something like that in the comic. Real life people are always greater than the drawings. Huh? I cant even figure out what you are even talking about anymore.


A real person can't put themselves in a comic book, get real laughing out loud . Marvel fanboys at the extreme. What if DC fans took it to that extreme? Lucifer talking about real people and the real world, heck even his writer mentions some strange things (listening to him). I've seen the scans, that's how they saw TOAA/God


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I never really considered The Heart equal to The Presence.

If it was, it should not cease to exist.

But the fact that MU continues to exist without THOTI is proof that
The Presence >>>>> THOTI


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