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Swamp Thing vs Cyborg Superman

The fight takes place on earth who wins?


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Endless stalemate. Neither of them can kill each other.


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Swamp thing.... Essentially he could destroy all tech in the arena which would bfr cyborgs essence...

Whereas to do the same to the green you would have to destroy the whole arena


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Swamp thing.... Essentially he could destroy all tech in the arena which would bfr cyborgs essence...

Whereas to do the same to the green you would have to destroy the whole arena


Which Henshaw is easily capable of doing.

Atomizing plant life is generally far easier than trying to atomize tech. On top of that, Henshaw has assimilated non-tech before.


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Re: Swamp Thing vs Cyborg Superman

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The fight takes place on earth who wins?
So the entire earth is the battlefield? If so, Swamp Thing ftw.


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So the entire earth is the battlefield? If so, Swamp Thing ftw.


Just curious as to how you reached this conclusion.

Destroying a planet isn't beyond Henshaw...

I know ST is supposed to be pretty uber, yet I don't see how plant life can compare with high tech personalized weaponry.


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It's pretty much a stalemate.


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Just curious as to how you reached this conclusion.

Destroying a planet isn't beyond Henshaw...

I know ST is supposed to be pretty uber, yet I don't see how plant life can compare with high tech personalized weaponry.
Even if Henshaw were to atomize the planet, he would not kill ST. In fact, ST's consciousness could seek out other forms of plant life [even if it were in other dimensions], reform, and return to Henshaw's locale - all in a 'reasonable amount of time.'

However, I was thinking of something along the lines of ST merging with Edenwood again. That stuff made ST so uber that he was able to defeat higher-level demons. Hell, he even became impervious to their magical attacks.

Or I guess he could send Henshaw's consciousness to a limbo zone, like he did to Captain Atom and Red Tornado.

Meh, .


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Swamp Thing doesn't NEED earth. He can reform on other planets.


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Even if Henshaw were to atomize the planet, he would not kill ST. In fact, ST's consciousness could seek out other forms of plant life [even if it were in other dimensions], reform, and return to Henshaw's locale - all in a 'reasonable amount of time.'


Nothing Henshaw can't do as well. Sounds stalematish...

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However, I was thinking of something along the lines of ST merging with Edenwood again. That stuff made ST so uber that he was able to defeat higher-level demons. Hell, he even became impervious to their magical attacks.


Henshaw has one shotted Herald level characters, so at most, it seems stalematish.

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Or I guess he could send Henshaw's consciousness to a limbo zone, like he did to Captain Atom and Red Tornado.


This sounds interesting. Unless it' something on par with Parallax or a fully powered OE though, I'd need to see that in effect. Willhunters, and Geneti-locks should be equally effective on Henshaws end...and so should the rings.

I'm still seeing tech as the more effective option.

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Meh, .


Pretty much. I'm seeing a stalemate since there is no death for either.


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Swamp Thing doesn't NEED earth. He can reform on other planets.


This applies to both characters.


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This sounds interesting. Unless it' something on par with Parallax or a fully powered OE though, I'd need to see that in effect. Willhunters, and Geneti-locks should be equally effective on Henshaws end...and so should the rings.

I'm still seeing tech as the more effective option.
Captain Atom and Red Tornado pissed ST off - so to teach them a lesson, he forcibly sent their consciousness' to a limbo zone. Once they 'submitted' ST brought them back. Despite what many people think [not you] he's far more than a character who just controls plant life.

Anyhow, I'll give you your stalemate. stick out tongue


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Even if Henshaw were to atomize the planet, he would not kill ST. In fact, ST's consciousness could seek out other forms of plant life [even if it were in other dimensions], reform, and return to Henshaw's locale - all in a 'reasonable amount of time.'
"Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. "


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"Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. "
"If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost."


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"If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost."
He's not being removed from the battle field against his will though, he'd be leaving because he has to to stay in the fight. Therefore forfeiting the match.

We wouldn't allow Superman to leave the battle field to go sundip (which he could do in a 'reasonable amount of time'), so why would we allow ST to go and reform many light years away?


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He's not being removed from the battle field against his will though, he'd be leaving because he has to to stay in the fight. Therefore forfeiting the match.
If the planet is atomized, technically there would no longer be a 'battlefield' for ST to leave. HAHA!!

Anyhow, I don't recall [could be wrong] Henshaw ever actually destroying a planet comprable to earth, on panel. So that part of the debate is moot.


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No to mention destroying =/= atomizing.


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If the planet is atomized, technically there would no longer be a 'battlefield' for ST to leave. HAHA!!

Anyhow, I don't recall [could be wrong] Henshaw ever actually destroying a planet comprable to earth, on panel. So that part of the debate is moot.
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Of course, but that's all opinion. People think he has the power, so they'll say he can.
I don't recall him destroying a planet... but meh.


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