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HOM Wanda & Alien Entity Vs Elaine Belloc & God Swamp Thing

Which team wins?


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Featwise, Team One wins. Omniversal destruction and rewriting + omniversal creation, on panel.

But Elaine was the outright Supreme Being of the Vertigoverse, and I think that gives Team Two the edge. So, I think I'm leaning towards them.

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What did swamp god do to put himself on the same level as these powerhouses?

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Team 2 for the insane stomp.


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Team 2, just one of them is needed though.


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*sigh*

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As I know Elaine is the Supreme Being, so team 2 wins.


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What makes a character the Supreme Being of their respective Omniverse in comics?

How is Elaine or GST more powerful than either Wanda or especially the Alien Entity?

Rather, what has Elaine done that makes her Supreme in the first place?

I mean, the Alien Entity re-created the LT,
since the Alien Entity brought about the original Big Bang
by literally creating from withIN itself the "spark" that ignited the Marvelverse,
and the LT, came from the original Big Bang along with the rest of the Omniverse.

On top of this,
the Alien Entity is all of Marvel (Past-Present & even Future) rolled into one.

And if we go by Marvel cosmic future facts,
then the Alien Entity is part of the Destiny Force,
which is,
humanity becoming GOD! ... (Supreme Beings of reality)
Yes, as in everyone will be an individual Supreme Being (GOD) withIN their own creation.


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What did swamp god do to put himself on the same level as these powerhouses?

The Word itself said that God Swamp Thing was equal to another aspect of The Presence, The Voice.

I don't believe HoM Wanda has more power than a being as powerful as an aspect of The Presence. Let alone against a Supreme Being.

As I see it, Alien Entity is at least on par with Elaine Belloc, and definitely above God Swamp Thing.

IMO, it's a stalemate. HoM Wanda and God Swamp Thing would do little to none against any of the other two.


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I actually want to give it it to team one cause alien entity created the entire marvel omniverse and i think vertigoverse is only one universe,while wanda affected realities on a multiversal scale

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Team 2 stomps.


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Who is this AlienEntity???

Are you guys talking about the being Thanos was talking about in ThanosQuest where his suicide created everything there is including the IG?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
What makes a character the Supreme Being of their respective Omniverse in comics?

How is Elaine or GST more powerful than either Wanda or especially the Alien Entity?

Rather, what has Elaine done that makes her Supreme in the first place?

I mean, the Alien Entity re-created the LT,
since the Alien Entity brought about the original Big Bang
by literally creating from withIN itself the "spark" that ignited the Marvelverse,
and the LT, came from the original Big Bang along with the rest of the Omniverse.

On top of this,
the Alien Entity is all of Marvel (Past-Present & even Future) rolled into one.

And if we go by Marvel cosmic future facts,
then the Alien Entity is part of the Destiny Force,
which is,
humanity becoming GOD! ... (Supreme Beings of reality)
Yes, as in everyone will be an individual Supreme Being (GOD) withIN their own creation.


But HOM Wanda or Alien Entity were never the Supreme Beings, although they can do whatever they want, were never Supreme Beings in MU. THOTI was Supreme within MU, because it represented TOAA powers within MU. The Presence also represents that in DC.
Elaine replaced The Presence, so she took the role.
She should be above anyone, except THOTI, equal to it.


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No.


who then?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by GamorasBigDaddy
who then?


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AE actually merged with the Fires of Creation,
making it the unofficial embodiment of the Big Bang that spawned the Omniverse.

Also, the AE actually created from withIN itself,
the "spark" that ignited the original Big Bang thus creating the Omniverse,
the AE held the "spark" in his hand like one would hold a lightbug,
then literally initiated its energies to expand as the fires of creation.

The AE did need Reed's mind to re-create the Omniverse though.
(which speaks volumes about the cosmic map in Reed's incredible mind)


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