team avengers. Cap is equal to batman... About... Unlss you takeout the super soldier serum which makes cap a 90 lb weakling
Without powers wolverine has neither the strngth or healing factor for his skeleton and did with minutes from it
Thor without powers wouldbe donald Blake which means he gets raped by everyone...
If cap gets ss avengers win. Hawkeye is the new cap.
Oherwise batman solis both teams by himself
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
no cap does not get the serum but hes still a soldier with years of training and experience, as for wolverine when i said no weapons i figured that would imply no adamantium my bad for not being specific, and as for thor i meant his normal body and fighting knowledge but with out his powers. what u dont think donald with his pimp cane could do any damage
W/o the syrum Cap would wither away and look like someone who hasn't eaten in 3 months. When he died the SSS reversed itself and he looked like he had starved to death. W/o the SSS Jean Grey could take him out.
i didnt realize the thread was that hard to understand. u take take the characters take away weapons this includes enhancements like adamantium not something like starks pacemaker thing and take away their powers like enhanced strength, speed, agility, healing, etc. I didnt intend for every possible side effect to be factored in such as wolverine losing his healing and instantly withiring into a 150 year old man, just that he cant heal from this point on. for capt i intended him to be an above average soldier with his years of combat training and experience but not with enhanced strength, speed, agility, etc. i hope this clears things up.
This is stupid. A bunch of peak humans beating eachother up and there's not good way to gauge the advantage here. I'd have to give the win to the x-men here since they seem to spend a lot more time training and seem like they all are pretty handy fighters.
supes- has a thousand yrs of barbarian combat.
batman- bats is still bats
ww- amazon warrior princes arguably still better then bats
wally- hyper active clown average fighting ability
jon stewart - prior marine with basic combat martial arts
hawk girl- still an alien warrior who relies on brutal form of combat with blunt wpns.
cyclops- tactiacal genius and judo master can make organize the team. he beats hawkgirl, john and wally.
storm- trained by logan and gambit. she beats, wally, john and hawkgirl.
logan- at his best MA fighting would tear through everyone here.
rogue- rogue can take hawkgirl 50/50 of the time might give the slight majority to hawkgirl.
gambit- he is the wild card here he can still defeat everyone here without his abilities. in comics it is hard to separate what is his mutant abilities and what is just pure skill. being human he would still be a high peak human. bats could take him down but i give the slight majority to gambit.
jean- she may be able to avoid and counter the first initial attacks but gets taken down by everyone in DC.
ironman- is just a playboy with a few lesson under his belt he gets taken down by everybody but wally west.
thor- has thousands upon thousands of yrs worth of warriors combat he can defeat supes with very little effort. thor can might get taken down by diana but not likely due to his size and strength coupled with his experienced.
hawkeye- he is recently become a bad@$$ as ronin he can beat everyone but bats. bats would tear him a new as will diana.
capt.- is a soldier with yrs of combat and MA skills he can beat everyone even at olympic lvl but he is not good enough to compete with bats or diana.
wonderman- williams is a brute fighter he gets taken down by bats supes, diana and john steward.
scarlet witch- she cant beat anyone here this is and easy win for wally, john and hawkgirl.
overall the xmen avengers win by sheer numbers over the jla.
Cap's "years of training and experience" amount to just *wat* exactly??
he was created after Pearl Harbor, trained for a few months initially then sent out into the battle field. now, while I'll grant that he picked up a thing or 2 between his birth and being frozen, its not like he was in the "Fuk Sum Won Up" -dojo every other day; if anything Id say that Bats & Logan have prolly demonstrated more legitimate training in some MA-school or other, more so than Cap.
NOT that he hasnt had any instruction in MA's, but if U were to ask me to place them all on a scale, Id say it would be Bats>Logan>Cap in skill.
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