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Black Zero vs Kurse


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BZ ftw. strength-wise he is in the same tier - and he's FAR more versatile.


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In a fist fight all you have is strength skill endurance and durability.


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oh sorry, i didn't see that clause.

anyhow, BZ was able to subdue, and/or own, hundreds of versions of superboy throughout hypertime - of which included the likes of superboy prime [ie. BZ is very strong/fast.] but would it be enough to take out kurse? meh, toss a coin.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
oh sorry, i didn't see that clause.

anyhow, BZ was able to subdue, and/or own, hundreds of versions of superboy throughout hypertime - of which included the likes of superboy prime [ie. BZ is very strong/fast.] but would it be enough to take out kurse? meh, toss a coin.


Kurse is wearing an enchanted suit of armor which renders him invulnerable to everything except iron.

That might mean BZ may not be able to defeat him in a fistfight here.

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Yo.

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Originally posted by Galan007
BZ ftw. strength-wise he is in the same tier - and he's FAR more versatile.


yea, theres no way BZ is in the same str-tier as Kurse; Kurse is stronger than Thor as I recall, and wtfpwnd him in their 1st fight easily.

and I never saw anything of BZ that makes me feel his ttk can hold him in any way......so I gotta go with the DE who cared for Katie Power.


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Kurse is wearing an enchanted suit of armor which renders him invulnerable to everything except iron.

That might mean BZ may not be able to defeat him in a fistfight here.
i agree.

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Yo.



yea, theres no way BZ is in the same str-tier as Kurse; Kurse is stronger than Thor as I recall, and wtfpwnd him in their 1st fight easily.

and I never saw anything of BZ that makes me feel his ttk can hold him in any way......so I gotta go with the DE who cared for Katie Power.


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subduing superboy prime with one arm is no small feat [which is why i said he's in the same tier.] but yeah, other than own a cluster of superboys', BZ didn't really display strength on par with kurse. but there's also a good chance that kurse would never be able to lay a hand on BZ.. *shrug*


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subduing superboy prime with one arm is no small feat [which is why i said he's in the same tier.] but yeah, other than own a cluster of superboys', BZ didn't really display strength on par with kurse. but there's also a good chance that kurse would never be able to lay a hand on BZ.. *shrug*


I dont remember BZ *ever* fighting SBP.......when did that happen again?




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I think it was one panel, on one page.

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I think it was one panel, on one page.
still no small feat. stick out tongue

but do i think it's enough? nah.


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I think it was one panel, on one page.


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still no small feat. stick out tongue

but do i think it's enough? nah.


ok, wat book was this??

cuz as far as I remem, SBP 1st showing after CoIE #12 was in InfC #1; Im not aware of him showing up at any time between then.





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ok, wat book was this??

cuz as far as I remem, SBP 1st showing after CoIE #12 was in InfC #1; Im not aware of him showing up at any time between then.





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it was the final issue BZ appeared in during his stint in the "superboy" series [the exact issue # escapes me at the moment.] we see him momentarily subdue superboy prime with one hand, before all the other versions of superboy start piling on him.


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Wasn't that just a pc superboy...I don't think it was prime.

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though it is partially speculation on my part, because no names were specifically mentioned, imo the depictions seem pretty clear that it was either prime, or some pre-crisis version of superboy... *shrug*


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it was the final issue BZ appeared in during his stint in the "superboy" series [the exact issue # escapes me at the moment.] we see him momentarily subdue superboy prime with one hand, before all the other versions of superboy start piling on him.


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Wasn't that just a pc superboy...I don't think it was prime.


Im pretty sure it wasnt SBP as well......

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Originally posted by Galan007
though it is partially speculation on my part, because no names were specifically mentioned, imo the depictions seem pretty clear that it was either prime, or some pre-crisis version of superboy... *shrug*


theres no way it was SBP; in that story we were intro'd to Ma & Pa Kent.....and it wasnt Jerry & Naomi.

also, Im far less accepting that BZ can hang w/Kurse (or thinking theyre = in STR) based on him being able to throw him off temporarily, *especially* seeing as how he couldnt get out of that headlock Kal-El had him in.





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KURSE is a beast, you have to be way up the charts to hang with him in a H2H contest...


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also, Im far less accepting that BZ can hang w/Kurse (or thinking theyre = in STR) based on him being able to throw him off temporarily, *especially* seeing as how he couldnt get out of that headlock Kal-El had him in.
i agree. initially i said they were in the same tier because of the 'superboy prime feat' - forgetting BZ owned most of the superboys' via his exotic abilities/weaponry, not with his braun.

and like i agreed with in my former posts, that one feat isn't enough to put BZ on equal footing with kurse where strength is concerned. add his normal tech/exotic powers and i think he'd win. but where h2h alone goes, kurse is >.


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i agree. initially i said they were in the same tier because of the 'superboy prime feat' - forgetting BZ owned most of the superboys' via his exotic abilities/weaponry, not with his braun.

and like i agreed with in my former posts, that one feat isn't enough to put BZ on equal footing with kurse where strength is concerned. add his normal tech/exotic powers and i think he'd win. but where h2h alone goes, kurse is >.


hrm............aside from that gun which can 'port beings back to his base and his HV, wat other exotic powers/tech could he call to bear to fight Kurse??

cuz Im drawing a blank personally.





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