OK, so a bunch of characters want to appear in front of humans (in our universe) and pretend to be the Christian God. Which one of them can succeed in being close enough to omnipotent/omnipresent/omniscient so that people would believe that he/she/it is God? For the sake of this thread, we'll assume that for some reason humans won't have any former knowledge of these characters (ie they won't recognize that Odin is well...Odin, and the god of Norse mythology).
1. medieval Europe
2. modern America
3. Star Wars
(in no particular order)
Galactus
Odin
Superman
A celestial
Utah
Darkseid
Eternity
Thanos
Thanos w/IG
LT
Post Retcon Beyonder
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right, but for this scenario you don't have to be totally omnipotent, just enough so that you can fool mortals
so Superman somehow suceeds?
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All of them could IMO for Medieval Europe.
Who is Utah? Is it a misspelling of Uatu?
I don't know about him but as for Modern America all but Superman, Thanos, and Darkseid could pass for the Christian God. Mostly because in the first case he's clearly not even close to all knowing and in the other two cases their lack of moral character would betray them.
As for Star Wars I'd say that LT and pr Beyonder are the only ones powerful enough to convince a Universe that has next to no religion (seriously the only religious ppl in Star Wars are seen as backward and kooky force worshipers) that they're God. I don't say Thanos because again if you're talking the Christian God he would be way too abusive to pass.
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Superman could definitely convince Medieval Europe that he's God. Hell if there were never any Superman comics he could probably convince a good segment of Modern America (30-40 %). There are a lot of stupid people willing to accept anything as their God/personal savior and a man who flies, can't be killed by anything we have, can bench press a continent, and can shoot lasers from his eyes is a step up from a lot of people's accepted beliefs. Its weird to think about it but Superman's on panel feats > what Jesus did in the Bible.
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“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
__________________ Introduce a little government. Upset the established gangs, and everything becomes order...
Democracy is the very definition of awesome.
I highly doubt that Superman can fool the majority of us today, he isn't anywhere near omnipotent.
__________________ Introduce a little government. Upset the established gangs, and everything becomes order...
Democracy is the very definition of awesome.
He's close enough as far as most people would be concerned. A good 20 maybe even 25% of America is stupid and gullible. Hell if Superman showed up without explanation I'd probably think he was (a) god but not THE GOD.
Maybe the some of the less educated people, but most would not believe. They'd probably go to Superman praying for them to heal their loved one or remove all hunger or end X war or something, and Superman wouldn't be able to do many of these things.
__________________ Introduce a little government. Upset the established gangs, and everything becomes order...
Democracy is the very definition of awesome.
You sure about that? Superman could have single handedly rescued everyone from Katrina in a day and rebuilt New Orleans by himself over a weekend. He couldn't do magical crap but for all intents and purposes he'd be closer to a God than anything we've ever seen before.
The closest being to resemble a Christian god would probably be Odin...
Despite what "Christians" say the bibles feats are no greater than anything in Norse mythology ie... What odins done.
Once the heavens and earth were created.... Which suppsedly Odin/ or Zeus have done
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I agree that Odin wouldn't even have to change his appearance to convince people, after all if you ask a lot of people they'll tell you that they see God as a bearded man, at least I do.
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“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
God could be a little black girl for all you know!
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Galactus - Fails 2 and 3. He'd just look like an alien.
Odin - Passes all with the right garb, and going for a "Father Time" look.
Superman - Passes 1.
A celestial - Fails utterly. Too funny looking.
Utah - Salt Lake City passes all three.
Darkseid - Fails completely. He'd clearly be pegged as the devil.
Eternity - He could pass all three.
Thanos - Fails. Pegged as the devil.
Thanos w/IG - Fails. Even with the IG.
LT - Passes better than anyone.
Post Retcon Beyonder - Fails. Too creepy, I think.
I think Silver Surfer, Zeus, Eddie McDonough, and Sentry could pull this off.
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