Hulk comes in this one at 500 tons and getting madder by the second, & Glads confidence is through the roof! Can the team take a majority? I say team gets 6/10
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Last edited by BattleMage on Jul 12th, 2010 at 03:43 AM
The 100 tons thing is a complete fail misnomer by Marvel.
In fact, Spidey can lift 100 tons with some strain. By the definition of the qualifications necessary to be in 100 tons class, Spidey would technically qualify.
That's why I prefer DC's more straightforward classifcation method: hey, how do you fare against Supes?
'100 tonners' aren't actually 100 tonners. They are more like 100,000 tonners. At least.
Spiderman has lifted things whose actual weight would be around 100 tons. Obviously he's not a class 100 guy, although by the simple description of the 100 ton class, he would technically qualify.
Thus, Marvel's strength classification is a complete failure in living up to its basic description.
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The handbooks are jokes anyways and Spiderman isn't portrayed as lifting 100 tons it's a few feats artists threw up with nerds applying weight to with their calculators like I have seen numerous zelda fans do with zelda games.
but he's right about the strength thing, 100 tons is routine lifting not one time with all your might as spidey may have done when lifting this huge metal scaffolding off his back. spidey can do 10-15 tons routinely
wonderman stopped a printing press from crushing down on someone for a while, the tonnage was 50,000 psi or some shit like that.
on the other hand you have a not pissed at all banner-hulk bracing that inner cavity of a mountain that was 150,000,000,000 tons.
both characters can military press 100 tons routinely thus class 100+, but they are not peers when it gets serious.
That's my point. Marvel's classifcation system is flawed as hell.
No. It's a simple matter of knowing or referencing the weight of things he's lifted. 100 ton objects are not particularly big. Moderate sized boulders weigh that much. Tanks can weigh that much, often more. Spiderman has thrown around tanks and such.
Hulk coming in at 500 tons means he would be weaker than he's ever been in his life, if taken by its literal meaning. (which I'm just doing for giggles, I know what the TS actually means.)
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Last edited by CosmicComet on Jul 13th, 2010 at 06:44 AM
Again, most writers don't even know what the artists drawings realistically weigh and people like you trying to assign real numbers to it is hilarious.
You won't ever get how most of these feats are actually thought up and will contiue to feat it up with video games and comics despite common sense screaming in your face.
We argue how these characters are commonly portrayed and here's a writer explaining how the real world works.
Kurt Busiek--hey don't even make sense half the time -- if a stat in the Handbook says that Character A can lift 120 tons, most artists don't know what 120 tons looks like, and they don't go and check whether a particular airplane or tank or whatever is within the character's stated limits; they just figure that means "wicked strong" and draw what looks to them appropriately "wicked."
I think that system works better than assigning numbers -- all that happens when you do that is that someone says Spider-Man can lift 40 tons (or whatever) because of that humongous machine he lifted once with incredible effort, and then bang, all of a sudden it's his standard strength, and fans who use to see Spider-Man go up against three guys with lead pipes and think it was an okay fight are going, "No way! He can lift 40 tons! That means he can juggle Buicks!"
You have no idea how far nerds will go to prove what something weighs without any real proof and they actually believe they are right. It's hysterical.
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