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Konton
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Banshee and Dazzler vs Invisible Woman and Gambit

CIS on.


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With CIS on Sue wouldn't instantly put forcefields around their brains and make them go pop. So I would give this to Banshee and Dazzler.

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The Dazzler vs Invisible Woman thing actually happened. I don't remember if it was a What If though. It could have been What If : Prof X. had become the Juggernaut.

It went down like this (paraphrasing of course) :

Invisible Woman : Nothing can penetrate my invisible force fields lady.

Dazzler : That's the funny thing about "invisible" force fields Mrs. Richards, light, even solid light like mine, gets right through them.

(Dazzler owns Sue)

Reed : Your powers may have made you an ideal opponent against my wife, but let's see how you fair against me.

Seeing as how Dazzler's attacks are as fast as the freaking speed of light, Sue's getting owned. Dazzler can just unleash an omni-directional blast and that's that.

Banshee vs Gambit is fun. Banshee flies AND has longer range attacks. I call it for Banshee.

Hence Team 1 in a stomp.

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If it's from a What If? then it isn't canon.

Not sure I buy Dazzler penetrating them with hard light rays when Sue's invisibility bends all wavelengths of light around her naturally. A Dazzler laser should bend around her as well, if we go by that logic.

I tried to make dynamic teams here.

Banshee can amp Dazzler and Sue can create physical links between Gambit and the others to pass along kinetic energy.


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when has Gambit ever passed along kinetic energy through something like a forcefield?
I still think Dazzler's powers should be able to surpass Sue's barriers since the beam of light can technically phase through anything IIRC

Sue bending wavelengths of light around her is not enough to say she can bend a lightspeed attack consciously around her imo.

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Well, seeing as light beams naturally travel at the speed of light and that Sue casually bends light moving at light speed around her body, I'm not sure why she wouldn't be able to bend more light. Dazzler has to concentrate and aim with her hands to fire lasers anyway. Sue will see it coming.


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Well, seeing as light beams naturally travel at the speed of light and that Sue casually bends light moving at light speed around her body, I'm not sure why she wouldn't be able to bend more light. Dazzler has to concentrate and aim with her hands to fire lasers anyway. Sue will see it coming.


Sue's powers work by bending the light already present around her. Shes not reacting to light when shes using her powers, Dazzler firing a laser at her should be too much for her anyway.

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Light is constantly flying at her at light speeds from all over. If she turns invisible, all light, no matter where it comes from, will bend around her.

She doesn't have to consciously will every individual stream of light around her body. That wouldn't be possible.


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Originally posted by zopzop
The Dazzler vs Invisible Woman thing actually happened. I don't remember if it was a What If though. It could have been What If : Prof X. had become the Juggernaut.

It went down like this (paraphrasing of course) :

Invisible Woman : Nothing can penetrate my invisible force fields lady.

Dazzler : That's the funny thing about "invisible" force fields Mrs. Richards, light, even solid light like mine, gets right through them.

(Dazzler owns Sue)

Reed : Your powers may have made you an ideal opponent against my wife, but let's see how you fair against me.

Seeing as how Dazzler's attacks are as fast as the freaking speed of light, Sue's getting owned. Dazzler can just unleash an omni-directional blast and that's that.

Banshee vs Gambit is fun. Banshee flies AND has longer range attacks. I call it for Banshee.

Hence Team 1 in a stomp.


If Dazzler's attacks travel at light speed then there a bunch of characters with light speed reaction feats then.


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Sue's powers work by bending the light already present around her. Shes not reacting to light when shes using her powers, Dazzler firing a laser at her should be too much for her anyway.
Sue only needs to outreact dazzler, who has no superspeed. Once the force-field is up arround her and gambit, dazzler's powers shouldn't go through. She can of course, resort to pound on the field until it gives, but it'll take longer than she'll have, although she does have banshee here...

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Sue only needs to outreact dazzler, who has no superspeed. Once the force-field is up arround her and gambit, dazzler's powers shouldn't go through. She can of course, resort to pound on the field until it gives, but it'll take longer than she'll have, although she does have banshee here...


Oh really? shifty

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Oh really? shifty

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What is this demonstrating?

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besides dodging Klaw. click the image and read the captions


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Originally posted by jalek moye
besides dodging Klaw. click the image and read the captions
I cant see it amplified enough to read it. Is it superspeed you're trying show? Is it actually above what any peak human could pull?

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Originally posted by 753
What is this demonstrating?


Dazzler's words verbatim: Klaw's thinking at the speed of sound, need to react at the speed of light


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She says Klaw is thinking (and i guess firing) at the Speed of sounds, So i need to react at the speed of light. She then preceeds to dodge, block, or counter every single attack he does.


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oh come on

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hey its there stick out tongue


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Originally posted by 753
oh come on


What?! She technically does what she says she needed to do in the scan...


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Pretty sure she was just trying to be clever.


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