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Elektra vs Cassandra Cain

Random encounter.

No weapons. H2H.

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Efinglektra


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Been done.

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Been done, Cassy can do suprisingly well here, but Elektra is a different beast from what Cassy is used to handling. It's not a stomp , but Elektra wins.


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Cass stomps like no ones business
Elektra gets beaten by superhuman opponents all the time
Cass beats Superhuman opponents all the time

the skill gap is too big

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Cass stomps like no ones business
Elektra gets beaten by superhuman opponents all the time
Cass beats Superhuman opponents all the time

the skill gap is too big


stop your nonsense fanboy, show me 1, just 1 single non PIS feat of cassy that Elektra cannot replicate, im not saying cassy cant win, but therer is no "stomp" in this thread.


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Originally posted by SasuOna
Cass stomps like no ones business
Elektra gets beaten by superhuman opponents all the time
Cass beats Superhuman opponents all the time

the skill gap is too big
lolwut? Elektra is metahuman and defeats other metas regularly. Her feats are better and her powerset is superior. Name one being That Cassandra took out that Elektra couldn't possibly defeat as you claim the gap is so wide. She couldn't even take Slade properly.

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lolwut? Elektra is metahuman and defeats other metas regularly. Her feats are better and her powerset is superior. Name one being That Cassandra took out that Elektra couldn't possibly defeat as you claim the gap is so wide. She couldn't even take Slade properly.


A lark I see
Elektra isn't superhuman
and neither is Cass however her feats make everything Elektra has done pail in comparison.
If you want to use the Slade argument I can use the Bullseye argument ad nauseum the same way. Thats not proving anything.

However unless Elektra can do things like this shes not beating Cass


kicks through a brick wall
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/...tgirl002-15.jpg
kicks through 3 inch quartz
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-14.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-16.jpg
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Durability feats
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...ead/page17.jpg
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http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...d/page20-1.jpg
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Beats the Brotherhood of Evil by herself
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...ad/page-18.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...ad/page-19.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...ad/page-20.jpg

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Except you can't, because writers made Elektra into an absolute powerhouse after her resurrection. The Bullseye thing doesn't translate because Elektra just kicked his ass in Dark Reign while drugged, injured, exhausted, and poisoned.

Elektra's gone h2h with Razorfist, Wolverine, the Silver Samurai, and several Super Skrulls. Her strength really shouldn't be in question here.

(I'll point out that your only working scan is the hole in the wall one)

I'd individually post the scans and my own interpretations of them, but I think it would do you some good to just browse through this respect thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=1


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Except you can't, because writers made Elektra into an absolute powerhouse after her resurrection. The Bullseye thing doesn't translate because Elektra just kicked his ass in Dark Reign while drugged, injured, exhausted, and poisoned.

Elektra's gone h2h with Razorfist, Wolverine, the Silver Samurai, and several Super Skrulls. Her strength really shouldn't be in question here.

(I'll point out that your only working scan is the hole in the wall one)

I'd individually post the scans and my own interpretations of them, but I think it would do you some good to just browse through this respect thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=1

Except Marvel hasn't turned her into a powerhouse at all she regularly gets manhandled by people stronger than her. This isn't up for debate unless you want to argue her durability.

Elektra fought Bullseye in her first ongoing after the supposed "upgrades" she received after her ressurection and she got beat down to the point of needing PIS to win that fight.
Elektra wouldn't need to be drugged for Bullseye to beat her that was just dumb for the sake of being dumb.

Elektra hasn't beaten anyone Daredevil hasn't beaten, shes not superhuman and the only thing she would have over Cass is her mind reading but then again even that never helped some of the telapaths Cass has beaten.

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In what alternate universe are you seeing her man handled?

She NEVER gets manhandled. The only time I can ever recall anyone absolutely trashing her was when she and Wolverine went up against Gorgon. Yeah, he's basically a speedster - it happens.

She's been up there with the big boys since her ongoing.

She has a conditional win/stalemate record on freaking Wolverine.
She's always edged out Daredevil.
She moved so fast the Punisher's vision couldn't even keep up with her.
She took down gangs of Super Skrulls and then took MULTIPLE hits from Colossus' skrull before finally getting KOd.
She took down Taskmaster, Zaran, and Fatale in three panels.
She rammed a blunt pole through Paladin, who has metahuman durability.
She pooped on Razorfist, also superhuman.
She laughed at Silver Samurai, also superhuman.
She pwnd Kirigi twice.

Cassie has done what exactly? Not been killed by Deathstroke and has a bunch of mother/daughter dynamic convoluted encounters with Shiva. Gotcha.

Cassie has really good speed feats, but Elektra has more going for her. Strength could go either way IMO, because while Elektra's leg strength was so much that she could swim faster than the human eye could see underwater, Cassie leaps towers now or whatever. Speed? Either way again. They both have "after the bullet fired" feats. Elektra's been shown moving and stealthing faster than DD and Wolvie could keep their eyes on though. Skill? Elektra. All the way Elektra. She's done more, actually has a track record, and has done everything Cassie has in surplus. Durability? Elektra. She took a slam from Luke Cage like nothing, the skrull thing, all the metahuman encounters. She's way more likely to continue fighting at optimal levels than Cassie is, too. She's shown some real grit over the years. Then the quasi-mystical complete anatomical control over her own body makes things different.


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There's also deflecting bullets with sais as well as her bare fist and punching holes through people on many occasions.
This is not a stomp in anyone's favor but I give Elektra the majority.


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Originally posted by SasuOna
Except Marvel hasn't turned her into a powerhouse at all she regularly gets manhandled by people stronger than her. This isn't up for debate unless you want to argue her durability.

Elektra fought Bullseye in her first ongoing after the supposed "upgrades" she received after her ressurection and she got beat down to the point of needing PIS to win that fight.
Elektra wouldn't need to be drugged for Bullseye to beat her that was just dumb for the sake of being dumb.

Elektra hasn't beaten anyone Daredevil hasn't beaten, shes not superhuman and the only thing she would have over Cass is her mind reading but then again even that never helped some of the telapaths Cass has beaten.


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Cass is super human for what she is as well.

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Cass is super human for what she is as well.

Not really, there even scans saying she not superhuman on pannel. However what makes her seem super human is she can do everything at peak level all at once, which is something almost no normal human can do, but her individual stats are still very much human (peak human).

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Not really, there even scans saying she not superhuman on pannel. However what makes her seem super human is she can do everything at peak level all at once, which is something almost no normal human can do, but her individual stats are still very much human (peak human).


Super human in that she does things no human can do. Not even Olympic athletes can do. Same for Elektra.

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Except Marvel hasn't turned her into a powerhouse at all she regularly gets manhandled by people stronger than her. This isn't up for debate unless you want to argue her durability.

Elektra fought Bullseye in her first ongoing after the supposed "upgrades" she received after her ressurection and she got beat down to the point of needing PIS to win that fight.
Elektra wouldn't need to be drugged for Bullseye to beat her that was just dumb for the sake of being dumb.

Elektra hasn't beaten anyone Daredevil hasn't beaten, shes not superhuman and the only thing she would have over Cass is her mind reading but then again even that never helped some of the telapaths Cass has beaten.


... This guy serious?


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like both characters, however Elektra will win the majority


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