__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
The Source is part of the Presence, it's not losing.
Fully back Spectre has the Presence behind him. We find out that the Spectre in COIE could have defeated the Anti-Monitor if the Presence had allowed him too.
I believe so, but if you want to debate about it
there's thread like lucifer vs beyonder or michael vs beyonder thread, I'm not gonna start it here. I mean both lucifer and michael tanked the multiversal big bang unphased, lucifer has created his own multiverse with michael's power. presence described michael "spark that expands forever-ocean of power with no shore"
beyonder is all about hyperbole, he barely has feats on lucifer and michael's level.
asides from him said to be millions times powerful than multiverse (that's hyperbole by the way) which hasn't shown to be, yeah he barely has feats on lucifer and michael level. I mean if you consider beating bunch of celestials as impressive as lucifer or michael, sure.
Beyonder was a multiverse larger than the Marvel Multiverse. He was stronger than the LT, who was scared to face him, he was stronger than MM who, was also stronger than LT. He takes blasts that can destroy billions of dimensions with a smile. He causes destruction across the multiverse by being upset. etc etc
LT's scared of him that's all. MM barely has feats either (aside from fighting beyonder).
michael has spilled out his power to create everyone, he's the second only to presence, The Dunamis Demuirgos is the god's power. he's power is so great that elaine create another reality with michael's power. he also defeated fully backed spectre with ease
lucifer can manipulate anything, time, space will. he also created his own multiverse
but again, I'm too tired to debate about who's more powerful here.
Last edited by MrMind on Jan 12th, 2011 at 04:55 AM
LT being scared of you is a feat in itself. Are you serious? MM has feats of repairing damage across the multiverse and some other crap that I'm not gonna bother looking up.
And Beyonder was second only to TOAA.
Beyonder could manipulate reality as well. Beyonder's power was so great he could make a multiverse many times larger than the Marvel multiverse.