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Apocalypse vs Ultron

Scenario 1: adamantium Ultron, peak Apoc
Scenario 2: non-adamantium Ultron, peak Apoc


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Is this adamantium ultron?

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in the first scenario, yes. not in the second one.

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My bad, in the first scenario, Apoc loses. In the second scenario, I can see him winning.

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Apoc wins both. In the first scenario (with the adamantium) he infects Ultron with the TO virus which which will disrupt Ultron's systems and destroy his body.


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Originally posted by illadelph12
Apoc wins both. In the first scenario (with the adamantium) he infects Ultron with the TO virus which which will disrupt Ultron's systems and destroy his body.
Didn't Ultron take over the TO virus and become the leader of the Phalanx?


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He took over the Phalanx hive mind, not the virus.


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I don't believe you.


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No way is Ultron losing the first.

I can see apoc winning the second.


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Originally posted by illadelph12
He took over the Phalanx hive mind, not the virus.


No he didn't. He reprogrammed the entire DAMNED Phalanx to his whims. They tried to infect his consciousness at the start, failed and Ultron did a reversal on their asses. And easily at that.

Ain't no way the TO Virus is even gonna affect Ultron. If anything, Apoc trying to infect Ultron with the TO Virus would end up with Ultron reversing it back to Apoc and using it to take him over....

I can actually see Apoc winning the first by shrinking to microscopic size (he can do that right? LOL) and then entering Ultron's Adamantium shell and messing up his circuitry frrom the inside.

Also, there are several variations of non-Adamantium Ultron. Theres the Phalanx version (w/c would win 7/10 to Apoc) as well as the female version (w/c would also take down Apoc). Any other non-adamantium version would lose (tho I can't remember top-o-my-mind any lol).

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No he didn't. He reprogrammed the entire DAMNED Phalanx to his whims. They tried to infect his consciousness at the start, failed and Ultron did a reversal on their asses. And easily at that.

Ain't no way the TO Virus is even gonna affect Ultron. If anything, Apoc trying to infect Ultron with the TO Virus would end up with Ultron reversing it back to Apoc and using it to take him over....
So I was right in not trusted Quanelph?

It appears the Quan side is taking over.


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No he didn't. He reprogrammed the entire DAMNED Phalanx to his whims. They tried to infect his consciousness at the start, failed and Ultron did a reversal on their asses. And easily at that.


Are you talking about Conquest? If you are, then you're off.

All scans are from Annihilation Conquest 5

1- Ultron didn't program them; he merely integrated them through his sheer will.
http://img683.imageshack.us/f/ultro...erthanapoc.jpg/
http://img33.imageshack.us/f/ultron...rthanapoc2.jpg/

in·te·grat·ed   
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1.
combining or coordinating separate elements so as to provide a harmonious, interrelated whole: an integrated plot; an integrated course of study.
2.
organized or structured so that constituent units function cooperatively: an integrated economy.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/integrated

2- High Evolutionary even said that the Phalanx's tech was 'infinitely' superior to Ultron's.
http://img844.imageshack.us/i/ultro...rthanapoc1.jpg/ (last panel)

Apocalypse wins. All he has to do is drain Ultron's ass like Galactus did.

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2- High Evolutionary even said that the Phalanx's tech was 'infinitely' superior to Ultron's.

http://img844.imageshack.us/i/ultro...rthanapoc1.jpg/ (last panel)

Apocalypse wins.
According to your scan he didn't know if it was superior or not, hence it being a question.

Anyway, TO isn't going to work.

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According to your scan he didn't know if it was superior or not, hence it being a question.

Anyway, TO isn't going to work.


"How did Ultron and the Phalanx become conjoined? Surely Phalanx technology is infinitely superior?"

"...Surely Phalanx technology is infinitely superior?"

"...Surely..."

Don't be picky, man. You know the High Evolutionary knows what's up.

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Originally posted by TheTyrant
"How did Ultron and the Phalanx become conjoined? Surely Phalanx technology is infinitely superior?"

"...Surely Phalanx technology is infinitely superior?"

"...Surely..."

Don't be picky, man. You know the High Evolutionary knows what's up.
I'm not being picking, I'm comprehending what the writer intended.

He was shocked of what Ultron did because he thought the Phalanx tech was superior, too superior for Ultron to control, apparently it wasn't.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Are you talking about Conquest? If you are, then you're off.

All scans are from Annihilation Conquest 5

1- Ultron didn't program them; he merely integrated them through his sheer will.
http://img683.imageshack.us/f/ultro...erthanapoc.jpg/
http://img33.imageshack.us/f/ultron...rthanapoc2.jpg/

in·te·grat·ed   
[in-ti-grey-tid] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
combining or coordinating separate elements so as to provide a harmonious, interrelated whole: an integrated plot; an integrated course of study.
2.
organized or structured so that constituent units function cooperatively: an integrated economy.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/integrated

2- High Evolutionary even said that the Phalanx's tech was 'infinitely' superior to Ultron's.
http://img844.imageshack.us/i/ultro...rthanapoc1.jpg/ (last panel)

Apocalypse wins. All he has to do is drain Ultron's ass like Galactus did.


who has apocalypse ever drained?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Are you talking about Conquest? If you are, then you're off.

All scans are from Annihilation Conquest 5

1- Ultron didn't program them; he merely integrated them through his sheer will.
http://img683.imageshack.us/f/ultro...erthanapoc.jpg/
http://img33.imageshack.us/f/ultron...rthanapoc2.jpg/

in·te·grat·ed   
[in-ti-grey-tid] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
combining or coordinating separate elements so as to provide a harmonious, interrelated whole: an integrated plot; an integrated course of study.
2.
organized or structured so that constituent units function cooperatively: an integrated economy.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/integrated

2- High Evolutionary even said that the Phalanx's tech was 'infinitely' superior to Ultron's.
http://img844.imageshack.us/i/ultro...rthanapoc1.jpg/ (last panel)

Apocalypse wins. All he has to do is drain Ultron's ass like Galactus did.


And how does one "integrate" one's system into another system. That's right! YOU REPROGRAM IT. The program you're integrating or the program you're integrating to or both.

Now, here's a follow-up question, at the end of the "integration", w/c system (Ultron's or the Phalanx's) was changed the most?

The wording of the HE nothwithstanding, Ultron's identity remained and he was the OBVIOUS dominant consciousness throughout the entire arc.

Also, throughout the entire arc, did Ultron's personality run counter to his previous incarnations throughout his lifetime? What indicators were shown to PROVE that Ultron's personality was altered in any significant way?

Hell, the entire purpose of the Phalanx was rewritten to serve Ultron's whims. I'm sure you read the entire arc, wasn't that fact painfully evident? They SURE wasn't serving the Technarcy there.

Hell, when Ultron was destroyed, the shock of it caused the entire Phalanx to seize functioning, proving further that his personality was strongly driving the Phalanx.

It's silly when ppl use DEFINITION OF TERMS instead of following the storyline in order to determine what REALLY occured. Silly, I tell you.

And what's your point, anyway? MY point was that the TO virus couldn't affect Ultron. This was shown on-panel.

Sheesh.

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Smh...

The Phalanx Collective Hive Mind is not one in the same with the TO virus. Ultron subverted the Phalanx Hive Mind and a computer virus which was attempting to corrupt his programming. The TO Virus Apocalypse employs, while similar and based on the same Transmode Model, is more of a physical consumpion/transmutation, not a programming override. You guys are mixing terms.

I'm right.


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Smh...

The Phalanx Collective Hive Mind is not one in the same with the TO virus. Ultron subverted the Phalanx Hive Mind and a computer virus which was attempting to corrupt his programming. The TO Virus Apocalypse employs, while similar and based on the same Transmode Model, is more of a physical consumpion/transmutation, not a programming override. You guys are mixing terms.

I'm right.
Cable's TO virus is a baby phalanx.

What now!


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