Apoc wins both. In the first scenario (with the adamantium) he infects Ultron with the TO virus which which will disrupt Ultron's systems and destroy his body.
No he didn't. He reprogrammed the entire DAMNED Phalanx to his whims. They tried to infect his consciousness at the start, failed and Ultron did a reversal on their asses. And easily at that.
Ain't no way the TO Virus is even gonna affect Ultron. If anything, Apoc trying to infect Ultron with the TO Virus would end up with Ultron reversing it back to Apoc and using it to take him over....
I can actually see Apoc winning the first by shrinking to microscopic size (he can do that right? LOL) and then entering Ultron's Adamantium shell and messing up his circuitry frrom the inside.
Also, there are several variations of non-Adamantium Ultron. Theres the Phalanx version (w/c would win 7/10 to Apoc) as well as the female version (w/c would also take down Apoc). Any other non-adamantium version would lose (tho I can't remember top-o-my-mind any lol).
Last edited by D_Dude1210 on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 04:40 AM
in·te·grat·ed
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–adjective
1.
combining or coordinating separate elements so as to provide a harmonious, interrelated whole: an integrated plot; an integrated course of study. 2.
organized or structured so that constituent units function cooperatively: an integrated economy.
And how does one "integrate" one's system into another system. That's right! YOU REPROGRAM IT. The program you're integrating or the program you're integrating to or both.
Now, here's a follow-up question, at the end of the "integration", w/c system (Ultron's or the Phalanx's) was changed the most?
The wording of the HE nothwithstanding, Ultron's identity remained and he was the OBVIOUS dominant consciousness throughout the entire arc.
Also, throughout the entire arc, did Ultron's personality run counter to his previous incarnations throughout his lifetime? What indicators were shown to PROVE that Ultron's personality was altered in any significant way?
Hell, the entire purpose of the Phalanx was rewritten to serve Ultron's whims. I'm sure you read the entire arc, wasn't that fact painfully evident? They SURE wasn't serving the Technarcy there.
Hell, when Ultron was destroyed, the shock of it caused the entire Phalanx to seize functioning, proving further that his personality was strongly driving the Phalanx.
It's silly when ppl use DEFINITION OF TERMS instead of following the storyline in order to determine what REALLY occured. Silly, I tell you.
And what's your point, anyway? MY point was that the TO virus couldn't affect Ultron. This was shown on-panel.
The Phalanx Collective Hive Mind is not one in the same with the TO virus. Ultron subverted the Phalanx Hive Mind and a computer virus which was attempting to corrupt his programming. The TO Virus Apocalypse employs, while similar and based on the same Transmode Model, is more of a physical consumpion/transmutation, not a programming override. You guys are mixing terms.