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Mongul Jr. vs Apocalypse

Scenario 1: Mongul without rings
Scenario 2: Mongul with 3 rings

Cis and pis are off.

Who wins?

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1) Split.
2) Mongul stomps.


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Mongul's a joke. He couldn't even hit Superman.

Apocalypse wins in scenario 1 at least. Not sure about scenario 2.

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You seem to be under the wrong assumption that Apocalypse can hit Superman cool


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Considering all the people who have managed to hit Superman, I'd be correct to assume that Apocalypse would be able to hit Superman.

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Superman's hittability varies.


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Considering all the people who have managed to hit Superman, I'd be correct to assume that Apocalypse would be able to hit Superman.



Considering all the people Apocalypse has failed to kill, I consider he can't kill sh*t no expression


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Considering all the people Apocalypse has failed to kill, I consider he can't kill sh*t no expression


PIS and CIS are off here. In the Mongul-Superman fight, PIS and CIS weren't off.

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PIS and CIS are off here. In the Mongul-Superman fight, PIS and CIS weren't off.



With PIS and CIS off Apocalypse still can't hit Superman. I don't understand why we are discussing this.


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With PIS and CIS off Apocalypse still can't hit Superman


That's neither here nor there, as Mongul couldn't hit a PIS/CIS on Superman on paper.

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That's neither here nor there, as Mongul couldn't hit a PIS/CIS on Superman on paper.



You may be aware that PIS can actually help Superman evade Mongul? And that CIS doesn't make you auto-fight like an idiot?

My point is, your argument is meaningless, Apocalypse can't tag Superman, so Mongul failing to do it is null and void in this fight.


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You may be aware that PIS can actually help Superman evade Mongul? And that CIS doesn't make you auto-fight like an idiot?

My point is, your argument is meaningless, Apocalypse can't tag Superman, so Mongul failing to do it is null and void in this fight.


How? Mongul isn't a speedster whereas Superman can be when using his powers properly. It wouldn't have mattered if Mongul fought to the best of his abilities or not, he would've still got his ass kicked by a smart Superman simply because he isn't fast enough to hit him.

Apocalypse can't hit Superman based on what Bentley? When has he been portrayed as a slow character? Just because he's big in stature, doesn't mean that he's slow, buddy. He's tagged a moving Quicksilver before who, on average, has better combat speed than Superman.

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How? Mongul isn't a speedster whereas Superman can be when using his powers properly. It wouldn't have mattered if Mongul fought to the best of his abilities or not, he would've still got his ass kicked by a smart Superman simply because he isn't fast enough to hit him.

Apocalypse can't hit Superman based on what Bentley? When has he been portrayed as a slow character? Just because he's big in stature, doesn't mean that he's slow, buddy. He's tagged a moving Quicksilver before who, on average, has better combat speed than Superman.



What does averages have to do with anything? You've failed to provide any actual reason to think speed matters here, I mean Kang has tagged QS too and you don't see me bragging about his speed compared with Superman. SM is faster than QS, Mongul, Apocalypse or anyone else shown in this thread; the fact he only decided to use that speed against Mongul doesn't prove anything here.

If Kal wanted to use speed against Pietro or Apocalypse they wouldn't tag him. You're using double standards so hard they're becoming triple standards wink


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Apocalypse wins easy

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What does averages have to do with anything? You've failed to provide any actual reason to think speed matters here, I mean Kang has tagged QS too and you don't see me bragging about his speed compared with Superman. SM is faster than QS, Mongul, Apocalypse or anyone else shown in this thread; the fact he only decided to use that speed against Mongul doesn't prove anything here.

If Kal wanted to use speed against Pietro or Apocalypse they wouldn't tag him. You're using double standards so hard they're becoming triple standards wink

The speed disparity between kang and Qs is magnitudes less than between supes and mongul

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Mongul's a joke. He couldn't even hit Superman.

Apocalypse wins in scenario 1 at least. Not sure about scenario 2.

He's hit Superman before. He only failed to hit Superman when Superman blitzed him. The same would happen to Apoc if Superman took him seriously, don't kid yourself.


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mongul both rounds


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i like um both but mongul can only counter the badassery and versatility of apocalypse by stockpiling power rings.
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btw did mongul even get a power battery? the dude just stole rings but i dont think i ever saw him power them up.. a ring or two should of run out of fear juice at some point. just a question.


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1. not sure
2. Mongul easily

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Mongul wins in second scenario and loses in the first.


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