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Thanos can not beat Dr Strange

It seems that everyone thinks Strange needs prep to even be a threat to Thanos AND you all even thinks thanos wins if strange has prep. I disagree. Why an I wrong?


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It seems that everyone thinks Strange needs prep to even be a threat to Thanos AND you all even thinks thanos wins if strange has prep. I disagree. Why an I wrong?
Im a huge Thanos fanboy and i agree Classic Dr Strange would beat Thanos, when looking at his feats it clear he can...but the only counter argument people ever use is when Strange said to Surfer that he or anyone else couldnt stand up to Thanos EXCEPT Surfer( which is bullshit as Dr Strange >>>>>Surfer)


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You can counter that by quoting Doom who asked why Strange, since he obviously had the power, doesn't destroy both Surfer and Thanos and Surfer at the same time.


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You can counter that by quoting Doom who asked why Strange, since he obviously had the power, doesn't destroy both Surfer and Thanos and Surfer at the same time.
thats not a counter at all. What doom thinks isn't.close to comparing what comes directly from the.horses mouth. Strange straight up said he didn't.have the.power to brat thanos. Period. No amount of wishful thinking changes this. Magic doesn't work on thanos as he.is.versed in the.mystic arts himself. Not strange level of course, but.enough I'm guessing to not get beat by it. Thanos wins by being better in virtually every single area of.vs.fight.

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t thats not a counter at all. What doom thinks isn't.close to comparing what comes directly from the.horses mouth. Strange straight up said he didn't.have the.power to brat thanos. Period. No amount of wishful thinking changes this. Magic doesn't work on thanos as he.is.versed in the.mystic arts himself. Not strange level of course, but.enough I'm guessing to not get beat by it. Thanos wins by being better in virtually every single area of.vs.fight.


Magic won't work on Thanos because he is versed in magic? Prove this is true. Strange put him in the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, vaporizes all of Thanos' attire and tech. Then proceeds to dump the titan into a void dimension. Letsee Thanos get out of that without teleportation tech.


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t thats not a counter at all. What doom thinks isn't.close to comparing what comes directly from the.horses mouth. Strange straight up said he didn't.have the.power to brat thanos. Period. No amount of wishful thinking changes this. Magic doesn't work on thanos as he.is.versed in the.mystic arts himself. Not strange level of course, but.enough I'm guessing to not get beat by it. Thanos wins by being better in virtually every single area of.vs.fight.
Strange agreed he could do it but it wasn't his way. He had just incapacitated-restrained them both at the same time and doom said destroy them. Thanos isn't immune to magic, he knows a little but so does all the skyfather levelers he's beaten. What areas is thanos superior in? The only areas Thanos is better is in physical strength maybe durability. Everything else i believe he is inferior or equal.


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Strange agreed he could do it but it wasn't his way. He had just incapacitated-restrained them both at the same time and doom said destroy them. Thanos isn't immune to magic, he knows a little but so does all the skyfather levelers he's beaten. What areas is thanos superior in? The only areas Thanos is better is in physical strength maybe durability. Everything else i believe he is inferior or equal.
Problem is the hard thanos wanking on the site and the fact that most people can't fathom the idea that his standard levels are not when he is the "main" villain of a series often times where he needs to be a ridiculous character to make him a great threat to the universe. He is a great character don't get me wrong but he's like a reverse apocalypse IMO. His jobber aura causes those around him to job horribly at levels far below their peak. Also I do conced the Thanos pimphand to be one of the founding forces of the multiverse and is indeed as powerful as a chuck norris roundhouse kick.

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Strange said... straight up...he.didn't have the power to stop thanos n put.him down. If the writer says this character can't beat another.. there is no ambiguity there. Further, the areas thanos are superior in are virtually everything as I said.... strength..,h2h combat skills...striking power.. blasting power...durability...intelligence... matter manipulation... both tk n tp... tech...as I said virtually ever area. Thanos is no strange in magic.but has been studying the arts n is far far older then strange.. thus is it seems likely this is.why magic doesn't work well on him

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Can Dormammu not kill Thanos now either?

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I didn't think there was much argument about this tbh. At his best, Strange is leagues above thanos, imho


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Strange said... straight up...he.didn't have the power to stop thanos n put.him down. If the writer says this character can't beat another.. there is no ambiguity there. Further, the areas thanos are superior in are virtually everything as I said.... strength..,h2h combat skills...striking power.. blasting power...durability...intelligence... matter manipulation... both tk n tp... tech...as I said virtually ever area. Thanos is no strange in magic.but has been studying the arts n is far far older then strange.. thus is it seems likely this is.why magic doesn't work well on him
A lot of people have said a lot of things on panel which doesn't necessarily make it true as it can be refuted in the very next issue. I'm just saying with on panel feats Strange has better solo feats not relying on other items for the most part or at least if he does they tend to be his standard gear which has almost as many tricks as Batman's belt. Thanos when he does something big tends to include some big and otherwise not present item that allows him to complete feats beyond his normal power scope. That is not to say that he is not an absolute wrecker but most of his more impressive stuff tends to involve a gem/item of unspeakable power/death. Makes it kind of hard to fail with that kind of backing.

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Strange said... straight up...he.didn't have the power to stop thanos n put.him down. If the writer says this character can't beat another.. there is no ambiguity there.


That's one writers opinion on the matter. The same writer who thinks Surfer has a better shot than Strange. Guess what? Thanos has pummeled Surfer more times than not. Strange has beat down threats greater than Thanos. Should we take Thanos' comment about avoiding Hulk?

Strange for some reason forgot he had the Crimson Bands when trying to restrain Surfer and Thanos.

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Further, the areas thanos are superior in are virtually everything as I said.... strength..,h2h combat skills...striking power.. blasting power...durability...intelligence... matter manipulation... both tk n tp... tech...as I said virtually ever area. Thanos is no strange in magic.but has been studying the arts n is far far older then strange.. thus is it seems likely this is.why magic doesn't work well on him


Lol, Strange sorcerror supreme that has gone up and beaten mystical foes that existed longer than Thanos. What you're saying is that magic wouldn't work well on Thanos yet it worked on Dormammu, Umar, Loki, and Surtur? Let's be serious, Thanos striking power means little against Seraphim's shield. His strength would be nulled by the Bands of Cyttorak or Chains of Krakkan. His combat skills isn't going to cut it against the Vipers of Valtor and Rain of Raggador.


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Magic won't work on Thanos because he is versed in magic? Prove this is true. Strange put him in the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, vaporizes all of Thanos' attire and tech. Then proceeds to dump the titan into a void dimension. Letsee Thanos get out of that without teleportation tech.


The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak which even Nova could break?

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i love ya lp but we'll never see completely eye-to-eye on strange. laughing out loud

i assume no prep, just straight up battle? yeah, bands wouldn't last long. strange could bfr him, but i don't see how he would REMAIN bfr'd if he still has his tech. and i disagree with the above--thanos's striking power and blasting power could be an issue. strange has become exhausted in the past using personal shields. strange would remain in character and not be resorting to dark magic as well, which would further limit his chances.

i continue to hear a lot of generalities when it comes to strange--he's beat 'lots' of skyfather levelers. he's beat down 'many' above thanos. wellllllll.............. let's see some scans and hear some context. for someone who has supposedly beaten down all these uber level guys, LET'S SEE IT. on panel. with context.

i'll HAPPILY concede the point that strange is so far above the usual heralder if i can actually see some consistent proof to support it. i've a lengthy collection of strange. i may be simply forgetting some of the instances everyone is talking about, or perhaps i don't HAVE them. so, someone enlighten me.

don't TELL me about it. forum-speak is a notoriously poor gauge of a character, but show some scans with context so everyone can see it. then maybe all the strange hype can be put to rest one way or the other.

sans bfr, i don't see strange winning this. but please, someone prove me wrong. i'd LOVE to think strange--dropped in a cage, under his own personal power--could beat thanos.


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.... strength..,h2h combat skills...striking power.. blasting power...durability...intelligence... matter manipulation... both tk n tp... tech...as I said virtually ever area. Thanos is no strange in magic.but has been studying the arts n is far far older then strange.. thus is it seems likely this is.why magic doesn't work well on him
Classic case of never having read anything on Dr Strange.

Strange has matter manip feats that far surpass Thanos and TP, hell his blasting power has destroyed dimensions and was stated to have the power to shake the universe.


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The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak which even Nova could break?
The crimson bands vary in strength.


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Classic strange doesn't need prep to beat thanos.

But current would need a heck of a lot of prep to beat thanos.


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On paper, Thanos shouldn't be able to beat the Surfer, either.

But he does.

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i love ya lp but we'll never see completely eye-to-eye on strange. laughing out loud

i assume no prep, just straight up battle? yeah, bands wouldn't last long. strange could bfr him, but i don't see how he would REMAIN bfr'd if he still has his tech. and i disagree with the above--thanos's striking power and blasting power could be an issue. strange has become exhausted in the past using personal shields. strange would remain in character and not be resorting to dark magic as well, which would further limit his chances.

i continue to hear a lot of generalities when it comes to strange--he's beat 'lots' of skyfather levelers. he's beat down 'many' above thanos. wellllllll.............. let's see some scans and hear some context. for someone who has supposedly beaten down all these uber level guys, LET'S SEE IT. on panel. with context.

i'll HAPPILY concede the point that strange is so far above the usual heralder if i can actually see some consistent proof to support it. i've a lengthy collection of strange. i may be simply forgetting some of the instances everyone is talking about, or perhaps i don't HAVE them. so, someone enlighten me.

don't TELL me about it. forum-speak is a notoriously poor gauge of a character, but show some scans with context so everyone can see it. then maybe all the strange hype can be put to rest one way or the other.

sans bfr, i don't see strange winning this. but please, someone prove me wrong. i'd LOVE to think strange--dropped in a cage, under his own personal power--could beat thanos.
I was under the impression this was classic strange. If so he wouldn't need to maintain his shields. He'd get Cytorrak to give him jugg shields big grin. Thanos isn't doing anything after that lol.

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Without prep here Strange has no chance.


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