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Novas got quite a bit of good showings in regards to energy manipulation dough I'm not too sure if it's enough to give him at least 3/10 wins against stardust to proceed.. Maybe someone who's very familiar with both characters can enlighten us with that..
I think Firelord and Morg are misplaced.. Morg and Surfer are obviously the toughest to beat.. He could prolly go to 7, but FL is going to be one tough cookie...
Ok Morg is in the wrong spot on the list, but whatever. Nova Prime should be able to beat all of them except for Surfer, Morg, and Stardust, and the Fallen One.
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I think Perceptor and Firelord are the only ones misplaced..
It should be:
1. Nova
2. Preceptor
3. Air Waler
4. Terrax
5. Red shift
6. Firelord
7 Morg
8 stardust
9 fallen one
10 surfer
As for Morg he had had quit a good showing at the beginning but like everyone else, it seemed like he had his power cut after his 1st reincarnation to a point that he couldn't even beat Surfer w/ having his PC back + what's left of the WOL in him.. Heck Firelord had better showing than him against Surfer and they've clash a few times..
Bloodlusted it stands to reason that he'd tap very deep into his power reservoir, so he should stand a good chance to clear it if he's going all out. Or at the very least make it to Norrin.
(runs away before ridicule)
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oh wait... Didn't notice bloodlust. If he is tapping deep into the Nova force, he could clear this. That's also if he starts resisting some of the failsafes Worldmind set for being Nova Prime.
I think he would pass Morg, but he statlemate at Stardust. On one hand, I think he would have the edge. On the other hand, Stardust would probably outlast him, so...
What's for sure is that Norrin destroy every single time Nova. Rich isn't winning against the Silver Surfer.
As for the Fallen One, who cares?
So do you think Norrin would take a bloodlusted Supernova or a bloodlusted Sphinx every time? Because that's precisely the kind of power that a bloodlusted Nova prime could bring to the table. Not saying that he would dig that deep, but that he could if he wanted to go there during a bloodlust.
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I wouldn't measure those guys fight with Nova as platform on winning against Some of this herald. Surfer himself have fought char. Tier above you mention, stardust/redshift survive Galactus tech beams, firelord against other top tiers, fallen one withstood a blast that destroyed a star system, etc.. I really can't see Nova putting down some of this herald alone in pure destructive physical/energy output..
Well, maybe, maybe not. But when they are put together, the best feats are always on Surfer's side. Also, I can't forget the epic ass-beating Surfer would have given to Rich if it wasn't of the fact that Surfer wanted to chat with Rich.
Nova at full power has oneshotted firelord before. And I mean literally knocked him across the solar system. Supernova has beaten Firelord into a coma.
The other heralds are definitely more powerful then Krill, but they'd eventually fall to the full nova force as well.
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It sent him flying across the solar system but it didn't oneshot him, more like he just shook off that full gravametric pulse while talking to Air Walker.. Morg and Terrax did a lot more better against a none holding back Firelord..
I agree Nova can take majority against the weaker herald but at this moment I'm just not convince he can pull of 3 wins against the top 4 on the list... I mean how is he going to defeat/injure them with the durability they've displayed thus far?
Huh? If a guy gets knocked for a loop across a friggin solar system with a basic eyeblast and can't return to the battle that's a one shot in my book. Besides, they all but spelled out how outclassed they were vs Richard. There's no getting around that one my friend
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Really? A solar system to beings in they're level shouldn't be a problem to traverse, it's not like half a universe or across dimension.. I don't mean to be little that feat but it really didn't do any lasting damage, Surfer or Morg did more damage than that with just a casual blast to FL.. Current WM pretty much dubbed a herald as top tier class, in fact pointing out as > Nova prime so really that shoulda Retconed that statement you mentioned..
Exactly. If he could've returned, he would have since as you said, a solar system is a short distance to beings like them. Both Firelord and Airwalker knew that they couldn't match his power and all but admitted it on panel. And furthermore, Supernova beat Firelord into a coma with that same power once before. I'm not sure what the dispute is here
Why would one statement retcon an entire story arc when there's no contradiction or discrepancy? Both things can equally be true. Richard under normal circumstances is beneath the likes of the surfer. But it is also true that entirety of the nova force >>>> over any herald leveler. This has been stated, eluded to and displayed on panel quite a few times. The only reason Richie doesn't tap too deep is because he'd risk his sanity.
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