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Pre retcon Molecule Man vs Thanos w/Infinity Gauntlet.
Try keep the debate to feats and not hyperbolic statements plz
Who wins?
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Dec 11th, 2011 05:12 PM
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MM.
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Dec 11th, 2011 05:16 PM
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Pre-retcon Molecule Man (and Beyonder) were stronger than the LT and everything else in the Marvel Universe combined; the LT appears to be a bit stronger than the IG by himself...
Thanos can only beat Classic Owen (and its not a certainty) if he has the HoTU...
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Dec 11th, 2011 05:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Pre-retcon Molecule Man (and Beyonder) were stronger than the LT and everything else in the Marvel Universe combined; the LT appears to be a bit stronger than the IG by himself...
Thanos can only beat Classic Owen (and its not a certainty) if he has the HoTU...
Read the OP, statements dont count.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nihilist
Read the OP, statements dont count.
Ok...so what does count then? Feats?
Going by feats, Classic Owen demostrated a blast powerful enough to destroy billions of dimensions as well as holding his own against Classic Beyonder for a short amount of time...
Going by feats (and fights) Owen still wins...
What would you say Thanos's best feat with the IG was? Beating the cosmic hierarchy?
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Dec 11th, 2011 05:35 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nihilist
Read the OP, statements dont count.
MM being stronger than LT isn't a hyperbolic statement.
A statement can be a feat if all evidence points to that statement being true.
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Dec 11th, 2011 05:47 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ok...so what does count then? Feats?
Going by feats, Classic Owen demostrated a blast powerful enough to destroy billions of dimensions as well as holding his own against Classic Beyonder for a short amount of time...
Going by feats (and fights) Owen still wins...
What would you say Thanos's best feat with the IG was? Beating the cosmic hierarchy?
In just a fit of anger a blast from Thanos was felt/causing damage across the entire spectrum of 616 reality.
And lets not forget Wolverine nealry killed Owen with a well placed stab and a depowered Thanos laughed it off.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
MM being stronger than LT isn't a hyperbolic statement.
A statement can be a feat if all evidence points to that statement being true.
Its hyperbole, it was along the same lines of LT needing Scathans help.
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Dec 11th, 2011 05:51 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nihilist
In just a fit of anger a blast from Thanos was felt/causing damage across the entire spectrum of 616 reality.
And lets not forget Wolverine nealry killed Owen with a well placed stab and a depowered Thanos laughed it off.
Owen was just "owen" when that stab occurred; he didnt know his true potential then...
Owen repared multiverse wide destruction caused by the Beyonder almost instantly with his index finger; multiverse>>>>>universe...
Owens feats are better than Thanos's with the IG...
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Dec 11th, 2011 07:58 PM
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What feats does Thanos have with the IG that equals or surpasses this one?
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LoM dont' forget when Beyonder's tantrum caused MULTIVERSAL level damage and Owen repaired it with ONE FINGER!
Pre Retcon MM or Beyonder are simply above all creation, that includes the LT. Pre Retcon MM can't lose this fight. PR MM 10/10.
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Dec 11th, 2011 08:18 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Owen was just "owen" when that stab occurred; he didnt know his true potential then...
Owen repared multiverse wide destruction caused by the Beyonder almost instantly with his index finger; multiverse>>>>>universe...
Owens feats are better than Thanos's with the IG...
His durability has nothing to do with potential, nor did it have, stop making shit up or prove the link it did.quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
LoM dont' forget when Beyonder's tantrum caused MULTIVERSAL level damage and Owen repaired it with ONE FINGER!
Pre Retcon MM or Beyonder are simply above all creation, that includes the LT. Pre Retcon MM can't lose this fight. PR MM 10/10.
So the Beyonder did something which Owen repaired.
When are people gonna learn that damage on a universal scale doesnt equal a auto win.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What feats does Thanos have with the IG that equals or surpasses this one?
another hyperbolic statement..the blast didnt even damage the room or people stood near by.
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Dec 11th, 2011 08:56 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nihilist
His durability has nothing to do with potential, nor did it have, stop making shit up or prove the link it did. So the Beyonder did something which Owen repaired.
When are people gonna learn that damage on a universal scale doesnt equal a auto win.
Nihilist, trust me when I say I agree with you 100% about hyperbolic (sp?) comments and how they don't count for jack, but this is different. The damage was MULTIVERSAL and on panel and Owen repaired it with a raised FINGER!
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Dec 11th, 2011 09:04 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
LoM dont' forget when Beyonder's tantrum caused MULTIVERSAL level damage and Owen repaired it with ONE FINGER!
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That doesnt put him above LT, LT has snapped multiverse busters out of existance before
Mxy>> Pre Retcon Beyonder>>Molecule Man=/>LT
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
Nihilist, trust me when I say I agree with you 100% about hyperbolic (sp?) comments and how they don't count for jack, but this is different. The damage was MULTIVERSAL and on panel and Owen repaired it with a raised FINGER!
Still doesnt mean shit to me, a total noob Nebula repaired all the damage,effects and freed all the absracts with a simple thought and she was a absolute total novice with the IG.
I get that to some it may be OMGZ, but not me.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
That doesnt put him above LT, LT has snapped multiverse busters out of existance before
He never has Big C, at least not that I can recall. In fact, every time a fight really gets to the multiversal level, like Thanos with the HotU, the LT loses. Another example of a multiversal fight where the LT lost was during the Protege saga.
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Dec 11th, 2011 09:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nihilist
Still doesnt mean shit to me, a total noob Nebula repaired all the damage,effects and freed all the absracts with a simple thought and she was a absolute total novice with the IG.
I get that to some it may be OMGZ, but not me.
The damage during the IG saga was contained within a single universe. The Beyonder's tantrum was multiversal in scope and repaired with a mere finger wave by Owen.
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Dec 11th, 2011 09:10 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
He never has Big C, at least not that I can recall. In fact, every time a fight really gets to the multiversal level, like Thanos with the HotU, the LT loses. Another example of a multiversal fight where the LT lost was during the Protege saga.
lulz youre gonna use Protege as a example against LT smh..
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
He never has Big C, at least not that I can recall. In fact, every time a fight really gets to the multiversal level, like Thanos with the HotU, the LT loses. Another example of a multiversal fight where the LT lost was during the Protege saga.
He did it to Slorith Omnivorous a creature who consumes Omniverses
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