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Amazo VS Cyborg Superman

Amazo- Classic JLA/JSA breaker

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Cyborg Superman- Current

Machine or ghost in the machine?


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Can Hank hack Amazo? If so he wins, if not he loses.


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Can Hank hack Amazo? If so he wins, if not he loses.


More likely Amazo gains defences against technopathy as he copies Hank's powers....

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Hank wins by being vastly superior


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Amazo shit-stomps.

Not only can he duplicate Hank's power, but can you imagine trying to fight someone as strong as Superman, as fast as Flash, as versatile as Firestorm, and as small as the Atom? I'd pay to see it.


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Amazo shit-stomps.

Not only can he duplicate Hank's power, but can you imagine trying to fight someone as strong as Superman, as fast as Flash, as versatile as Firestorm, and as small as the Atom? I'd pay to see it.


That's the bad thing about comics, they never truly shows how powerful a recurring character can be outside of an event.

And Amazo is one of the best examples.

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Hank would take him over immediately, and tell him that he is his new master. Henshaw wouldn't even have to see him to begin the takeover, so even if Amazo grows defenses, it will be too late to employ them.


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Hank would take him over immediately, and tell him that he is his new master. Henshaw wouldn't even have to see him to begin the takeover, so even if Amazo grows defenses, it will be too late to employ them.


Unless he has Flash-level reflexes? Its usually hard to argue with Amazo in a forum fight, because he's so stacked....

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What's faster, the speed of a bit, or the Flashes reflexes? All Henshaw would need to do is send one packet to Amazo, and it's game over.


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What's faster, the speed of a bit, or the Flashes reflexes?
Flash. By far.


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What's faster, the speed of a bit, or the Flashes reflexes? All Henshaw would need to do is send one packet to Amazo, and it's game over.


Well, technically, they are the same, as its just the movement of electrons.

HOWEVER, Hank still has Kryptonian level reflexes - fast, yes, but we've seen that the Flash is faster.

Think of it this way. Your PC sends bits of data at the speed of light. However, your hard drive, as it were, would slow it down massively. And so it is with Hank.

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Well, technically, they are the same, as its just the movement of electrons.

HOWEVER, Hank still has Kryptonian level reflexes - fast, yes, but we've seen that the Flash is faster.

Think of it this way. Your PC sends bits of data at the speed of light. However, your hard drive, as it were, would slow it down massively. And so it is with Hank.



Ok so Henshaw takes a one second beating while he takes over Amazo. Saying that Amazo would develop a countermeasure for the takeover is simply something that has never happened in comics, and is his Achilles heel so to speak. We know that Henshaw can take him over, but we don't know if Amazo can resist.

What's the more solid argument?


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Ok so Henshaw takes a one second beating while he takes over Amazo. Saying that Amazo would develop a countermeasure for the takeover is simply something that has never happened in comics, and is his Achilles heel so to speak. We know that Henshaw can take him over, but we don't know if Amazo can resist.

What's the more solid argument?


On no, I'm not saying Amazo punches him in that one second. I'm saying Amazo copies Hank's technopathy in that one second.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, can Hank resist a Hank who's hacking into his own processes at Flash speed? Whilst wailing on him with physical, magical and telepathic attacks?

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On no, I'm not saying Amazo punches him in that one second. I'm saying Amazo copies Hank's technopathy in that one second.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, can Hank resist a Hank who's hacking into his own processes at Flash speed? Whilst wailing on him with physical, magical and telepathic attacks?



No no no no no noes! That's not how this works out at all. Hank would begin hacking Amazo, as Amazo's systems are copying Hank's ability to hack. It would already be too late for Amazo by the time it received this new ability, and it would have already been compromised. Amazo is obviously more powerful than Hank, but in a battle the extra power just wouldn't matter.


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No no no no no noes! That's not how this works out at all. Hank would begin hacking Amazo, as Amazo's systems are copying Hank's ability to hack. It would already be too late for Amazo by the time it received this new ability, and it would have already been compromised. Amazo is obviously more powerful than Hank, but in a battle the extra power just wouldn't matter.


But Amazo would be copying it at Flash-level speed, so he'd have already copied it before Hank has reacted, surely?

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But Amazo would be copying it at Flash-level speed, so he'd have already copied it before Hank has reacted, surely?



I thought we already determined that the speed of a bit is as fast as the Flash. If you count hops, Amazo makes two hops, and Hank only makes one. Who arrives at the destination faster?


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I thought we already determined that the speed of a bit is as fast as the Flash. If you count hops, Amazo makes two hops, and Hank only makes one. Who arrives at the destination faster?


Yes, but the 'hard drive', as it were, of Hank is slower than Amazo's. Its like comparing two computers, both with DVD drives. They can both read a PC game disc, at the same speed - but one has a more powerful graphics card, and a faster hard drive, and a faster processor - and so the game would run faster on that PC.

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Yes, but the 'hard drive', as it were, of Hank is slower than Amazo's. Its like comparing two computers, both with DVD drives. They can both read a PC game disc, at the same speed - but one has a more powerful graphics card, and a faster hard drive, and a faster processor - and so the game would run faster on that PC.


So then it would be a case of who's hardware is superior then? Kryptonian hardware vs Ivo's hardware? I'd settle for a stalemate where they both sit there blue screening. Hank however makes less hop counts.


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