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KuRuPT Thanosi
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Did Thanos defeat Thor with the PG?

I see some people calling it a stalemate...

I see others saying Thor was superior because it was just a matter of time before he won

Other say, going by forum rules, Thanos clearly and undisputably won.

Which is it?

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He incapacitated Thor using a device he happened to have on hand. So, yes, I'd count that as a win as Thor was out of action for more than a few minutes.

Obviously, without Thanos just happening to have that on hand (which to me was a plot device means of stopping Thor long enough for the story to progress) things would have been a lot different. But yes, by forum rules, I'd say that counts as a victory for Thanos as he incap'd Thor, who was unable to fight back.


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It will be a lot of people drop in on this. I say Thanos won via forceblock. cool
Woulda been a good fight if allowed to continue under normal circumstances.


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Yes, Thanos won.


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yes it would have been a much better fight if he didnt use the weapon....but thanos would have just found another way to stop thor.

but yes thanos won


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Yes, Thanos won.


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thanos just put a "pause" in the fight, his calculations said thor was going to become even too much for him to handle in a short amount of time so if you call that a win than well.....

thanos at least showed he was strong and durable enough to get slugged by thor in that condition, but let's not kid ourselves.


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thanos just put a "pause" in the fight, his calculations said thor was going to become even too much for him to handle in a short amount of time so if you call that a win than well.....

thanos at least showed he was strong and durable enough to get slugged by thor in that condition, but let's not kid ourselves.


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In the very technical sense of the word, he did win if you want to count incapacitation as a victory per forum rules. Thor was out of action for more than a few minutes, so meh.

Obviously, without that handy gadget that just happened to be there, there would had been Mad Titan brains splattered all over the place.


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yeah, a "forum win".


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No it was a draw


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In the very technical sense of the word, he did win if you want to count incapacitation as a victory per forum rules. Thor was out of action for more than a few minutes, so meh.

Obviously, without that handy gadget that just happened to be there, there would had been Mad Titan brains splattered all over the place.


Well it was easy enough for him to incorporate into his powerset in mere moments before going to talk to Odin.

Lets also remember it wasn't mere minutes... Thor was incapacitated for quite sometime... hours..

Lastly, lets not exaggerate here... Thor couldn't even break out of device Thanos was testing for hours... He didn't show any superiority over Thanos during their encounter. Sure, eventually he might have gotten too powerful for Thanos to handle....but that might have taken hours and hours to get to that point AND Thanos wouldn't just sit there at let that happen. Thanos is exponentionally more intelligent and way better at strategy.. so we would further have to assume Thanos wouldn't come up with anything else or have anything else lying around OR displace the gem from Thor. All things that are a bit of a stretch when we are talking about Thanos.

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Well it was easy enough for him to incorporate into his powerset in mere moments before going to talk to Odin.

Lets also remember it wasn't mere minutes... Thor was incapacitated for quite sometime... hours..

Lastly, lets not exaggerate here... Thor couldn't even break out of device Thanos was testing for hours... He didn't show any superiority over Thanos during their encounter. Sure, eventually he might have gotten too powerful for Thanos to handle....but that might have taken hours and hours to get to that point AND Thanos wouldn't just sit there at let that happen. Thanos is exponentionally more intelligent and way better at strategy.. so we would further have to assume Thanos wouldn't come up with anything else or have anything else lying around OR displace the gem from Thor. All things that are a bit of a stretch when we are talking about Thanos.


I don't dispute that at all.

And you're right, which is what I said. Thor wasn't out of action for minutes. If he had been, I'd be less inclined to give him the win.

Had Thanos not stopped Thor with an experimental device which he just happened to have on him (which is the very definition of plot device), things wouldn't have fared well for him. Thanos himself conceded the point and while Thanos could have whipped out another ploy from nowhere, it's conjecture and speculation at best.


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I consider that a win for Thanos. So yeah, he did defeat Thor with PG.


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Yep Thanos won, but I have to agree with Psycho, and Jake in terms of context. A win is a win though. Thanos is the man.


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Thanos definitely won; using your own tech to secure a win is fair game...

I do, however, think it was rather PIS'ish that an insane, homicidal, Thor simply allowed Thanos to turn away from the battle and calmly walk off...

If I was Thor in that situation, Thanos would have been subjected to a full strength Mjolnir bash in the back of the head...bare minimum.

But anyway, Thanos won...


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Thanos definitely won; using your own tech to secure a win is fair game...

I do, however, think it was rather PIS'ish that an insane, homicidal, Thor simply allowed Thanos to turn away from the battle and calmly walk off...

If I was Thor in that situation, Thanos would have been subjected to a full strength Mjolnir bash in the back of the head...bare minimum.

But anyway, Thanos won...
What's one more hammer shot going to do ? Not much. Thor is also known for ranting and raving mid battle so it was completely in character. Thanos beat a character who walked through classic strange and company like they were street levelers.


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Yes that would have been considered a forum win.


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by forum standards the win is indisputable. of course, with forum rules would come a standard dome and no access to any tech that is not/was not considered part of his standard gear (which the whole forceblock thing was NOT at the time). so sure he 'won'. would he have won had it been a TRUE standard forum match? that is very FAR from clear.


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What's one more hammer shot going to do ? Not much.


He already drew blood from him, so it would have done something, inaddition, he possibly could have damaged or destroyed the gun before Thanos could have used it against him if he had pressed the attack instead of just letting Thanos walk off; you can rant and ravage while beating on someone afterall...

So like I said, a homicidal Thor just letting Thanos casually walk away was PIS'ish...


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He already drew blood from him, so it would have done something, inaddition, he possibly could have damaged or destroyed the gun before Thanos could have used it against him if he had pressed the attack instead of just letting Thanos walk off; you can rant and ravage while beating on someone afterall...

So like I said, a homicidal Thor just letting Thanos casually walk away was PIS'ish...
Yes, after all those attacks he just had a nosebleed so I repeat not much if anything at all.

Thor gave speeches the entire time he was homicidal it's what he does. I could say oh it's pis Thanos wasted his time even fighting him despite knowing he had the power gem. Thanos won and there's nothing you can do or say to change that. smile


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