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yeah, i'm not sure..... orion is not immune to tp or its effects so theoretically nate should be able to affect him that way. i'd give orion the overall power edge for sure, but nate is not that far behind and has better overall mastery of his skillset. no sweeps either way for sure, but not sure who would take a majority. too many different ways this battle could go. i could even see the occasional stomp in either direction.
Actually, he is immune. In John Ostranders run on Martian Manhunter J'onn claimed all New Gods had telepathic immunity, and couldn't get into their heads at all.
Even in the early 90's, Mr. Miracle claimed Granny conditioned all para demons against tp, which is why he was immune to Sleeze's telepathy (Which basically adds credibility to Ostranders work, as them being immune makes sense if they normally condition against that sort of thing..)
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i know it had been somewhat established, but max ko'd orion pretty easily with a tp blast. i'd love to see some scans of those manhunter books. perhaps i'll look them up. sounds interesting.
and for the purposes of this match, to may not matter as nate's tk control may well be even more dangerous to orion....
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which of course is my problem. they were said to be immune but obviously were not. so, not sure why i should accept unilaterally that they ARE again..... i'd like to see a scan SHOWING this immunity. not, as i said, that i see tp being the only way nate can potentially win this.
Brainiac easily took out Metron in his mobius chair, yet Dubblex was able to defend from his tp probes?
And when you have the writer making a statement in the letter pages that he blatantly underwrote characters for the sake of the story, in response to a fans question on why Dr. Fate with all her power would be bothered by falling water...
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off-guard does not elminate 'immunity'. i'll look through the respect thread. i've read a lot of orion and i can't recall anyone really attempting to attack with with tp off-hand and whenever i ask for scans i never get them. i'll need to check on this issue a little more closely methinks.
I'll see what I can do about scans, but keep in mind Brainiac located and took out Metron in his mobius chair, and the chair found Dubblx, the Cadimus telepath, and suddenly Dubblx becomes a super telepath that could block Brainiacs mind probes.
Not to mention, Pocket Universe Supergirl pwning Lightray, which is serious underwriting.
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i'm not contesting that. i'm saying i'm not sure where the idea they are immune to tp came from originally. just did search in the orion respect thread. serached telepathy, telepathic, mars, martian and got nothing at all, nor did i see a single scan where he resisted a direct tp assault. not saying there isn't one somewhere, just that i haven't seen it.
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