At prime? Dr strange with all his artifacts would be above both Thor and surfer.
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Surfer still wins this, for me.
Too fast for Strange to defend against his initial attack. No matter how powerful Strange is, if he can't access that power before Surfer turns off his brain, what's the point?
I responded to the title, more than to the scenario.
As to overall power, it would be unfair to claim Strange had the power of the various demons and entities that he calls upon. He is relatively weak, just knows how to bargain with immensely powerful entities.
So, I'd say Keeper perhaps as the most powerful of the three.
That or, and this is a bit of a cheat to my mind, SurferGod. Back when the LT gave him proper Godhood for a while. Undoubtedly that trumps anything the other two have ever possessed or will ever possess or could ever possess .
Keeper was basically somewhere between a Watcher and Galactus. Typically for Surfer, he did very little and when he finally took on Galactus, got his arse handed to him. Still, Quantum Bands, innate Power Cosmic of a level sufficient to tarry with Galactus and all regular Surfer abilities.
The LT made Surfer a true God, just because Surfer deserved it (according to LT). I would say that shits upon everything the others could ever do or hope to do. There's just no challenge, if we're talking absolute peaks of power.
I'd say Odin is somewhere between a Watcher and Galactus with his classic feats definitely rivaling Galactus' better ones. Rune King Thor is a definite step above Odin thanks to the total mastery and knowledge of the Odin Force, Rune Magic, and, of course, Mjolnir.
Been a long while (maybe 5-6yrs) since I read that story, but it was just a single story, no grand arc or anything.
As for the placing of Watchers, imo they're still a bit above Odin/RKT. The cosmics might have been downplayed by Pak, but they will get their moment again.
I'd like some good cosmic stories again. Glad to see Surfer in an ongoing title, but I'm getting sick of the emphasis on street and meta level characters in Marvel.
The Surfer by definition is outside any "birth rite", he was just a Zen Lavian scientist, he was altered into The Silver Surfer. He has since been altered - at times - to be The Keeper (for an arc), to be GOD (for a story) and to be a skyfather/dimensional god (for the UniLord story)...
You can arbitrarily set a limit to what upgrades he might be given, but it would be just that, arbitrary.
Unlike Strange or RKT, the power is all within him, his to do with as he pleases, the force is not something that has a sentience separate to him nor is it magics that exist independent of him.
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