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Scathan, owned and then restrained the Protege (even after the Celestial Muzzle was removed) while the Living Tribunal passed judgement on him. Protege at that point in time had surpassed the Living Tribunal himself and he claimed he was the new One Above All (he could have been bragging) and the Beyonder claimed that the fate of any and all realities rests on the shoulders of the Protege (and the entire Cosmic Court agreed with the statement).

I don't see Scathan losing this.


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Scathan.


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CA Superman, easy. Using the same logic as the second poster... the Mandrakk, CA Superman fought was more powerful then Spectre and Radiant together, he was so far above anyone else and treated to consume everything and CA Superman was the only being capable to stop him, that this is a nonfight. Since Spectre is at his best the equal of LT, even mighty Scathan has nothing to add to this fight.

As for lowballing Spectre, LT failed to kill too, was also owned more then once, so humor me if I still believe that LT is the most powerful cosmic in the MU if written properly, like the Spectre in the DCU and if I laught at the lowballing of those two.


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CA Superman, easy. Using the same logic as the second poster... the Mandrakk CA Superman fought was more powerful then Spectre and Radiant together, he was so far above anyone and treated to consume everything and CA superman was the only being capable to stop him. Since Spectre is at his best the equal of LT, even mighty Scathan has nothing to add to this fight.

As for lowballing Spectre, LT failed to kill too, was also owned more then once, so humor me if I still believe that LT is the most powerful cosmic in the MU if written properly, like the Spectre in the DCU^^.


The Spectre has FAR more humiliating showings than the LT. The Spectre is not the LT's equal at all, even at his "best". The LT has only been beaten outright by the power of the HoTU, the Protege, and two PISful alternate reality stories. That's it.


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CA Superman wins.

Superman's Story does not need Scathan's Approval.

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The Spectre has FAR more humiliating showings than the LT. The Spectre is not the LT's equal at all, even at his "best". The LT has only been beaten outright by the power of the HoTU, the Protege, and two PISful alternate reality stories. That's it.

The Spectre had his own comic book series and appears quite often in DC books, which would explain... oh wait!
Alternate LT stories = canon to LT... I read once here on this boards.
Say what you want but if a DC Badass tries to destroy the Multiverse in an company event, alla Zero Hour or CotiE, then you see Spectre at his best levels, which compared to LT's showing against Thanos with the HOTU for example aren't that bad. In FC however he was a nonfactor to Mandrakk 2, which speaks volumes for CA Superman who fought Mandrakk 1.
BTW do you think that Scathan > THOTU > Protege>= LT ?
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The Spectre had his own comic book series and appears quite often in DC books, which would explain... oh wait!
Alternate LT stories = canon to LT... I read once here on this boards.
Say what you want but if a DC Badass tries to destroy the Multiverse in an company event, alla Zero Hour or CotiE, then you see Spectre at his best levels, which compared to LT's showing against Thanos with the HOTU for example aren't that bad. In FC however he was a nonfactor to Mandrakk 2, which speaks volumes for CA Superman who fought Mandrakk 1.
BTW do you think that Scathan > THOTU > Protege>= LT ?
I win, thanks for playing smile.


You win at failing.

Regarding powerlevels of the beings you mentioned IMHO it's :
HOTU>Scathan>Protege>LT. The HotU loss can't be counted against the LT because that was literally TOAA's power in Thanos' hands (which TOAA allowed).

That leaves his loss vs the Protege and the two PISful alt reality showings. That's not bad at all.


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Originally posted by Magnon CA Superman wins. Superman's Story does not need Scathan's Approval.


qft. scathan is overrated imo.

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Superman easily.


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Scathan, easily.


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Originally posted by Deathmate Celestials are overrated. CAS wins this!


celestials are pretty powerful, but i generally agree with ya.

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Not convinced one way or the other as of yet.


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52 universes are pretty significant size compared to CAS.LT on the other hand held 2 megaverses in his palms each being a collection of multiverses each consisting of infinite number of universes.

LT vs CAS is spite of omniversal proportions.

Scathan vs CAS even more.

DC cosmics are not on the same level as Marvel's

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I think Cosmic Armor Superman's feat is more impressive so...CAS.

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52 universes are pretty significant size compared to CAS.LT on the other hand held 2 megaverses in his palms each being a collection of multiverses each consisting of infinite number of universes.

LT vs CAS is spite of omniversal proportions.

Scathan vs CAS even more.

DC cosmics are not on the same level as Marvel's

Except the whole multiverse was a germ compared to CAS. That's not completely true, spectre has also held DC multiverse in his palm, but he was nothing to mandrakk 2 who was nothing to real mandrakk. ABC logic does wonders.


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Except the whole multiverse was a germ compared to CAS. That's not completely true, spectre has also held DC multiverse in his palm, but he was nothing to mandrakk 2 who was nothing to real mandrakk. ABC logic does wonders.


Nope, it was a germ to the Primal Monitor.Like I sad multiverse in Marvel has infinite number of universes.And LT held megaverses.That's not BC logic but comparing feats.

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Nope, it was a germ to the Primal Monitor.Like I sad multiverse in Marvel has infinite number of universes.And LT held megaverses.That's not BC logic but comparing feats.


DC = an Omniverse
Marvel = Omniverse

Omniverse = Omniverse, it doesn't matter how you break it down, Megaverses, Multiverses, Dimensions, Hyperspaces, Timelins etc. It ends with infinity.

Marvels 616 = DC Prime Universe, as was shown in the Crossover. Marvels 6161 = most important U in Marvel.
It's just a matter of terms, in the end you are stuck with an infinity vs an infinity.

Logic ftw.


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It's just a matter of terms, in the end you are stuck with an infinity vs an infinity.

Logic ftw.

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DC's a bit jumbled. In The Next, it was said that Superman saved the Omniverse. In 52, Rip Hunter said DC had a Megaverse or Metaverse. Always forget.

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