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Thor vs Orion

No astro harness and no hammer. Fight to the death.

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Who's going to miss thier weapon more in this fight?

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I think Thor would miss it more but imho it should be always a 50-50 between top High Heralds like, Supes, SS, Thor, Orion or GL Hal (just examples).


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I think Thor would miss it more but imho it should be always a 50-50 between top High Heralds like, Supes, SS, Thor, Orion or GL Hal (just examples).


Except I wouldn't call Thor a high herald without his hammer.

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Except I wouldn't call Thor a high herald without his hammer.


You might have a point there.


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I think Thor would miss it more but imho it should be always a 50-50 between top High Heralds like, Supes, SS, Thor, Orion or GL Hal (just examples).



FTR Hal isn't a high herald...

A hammerless THOR is basicly classic Hercules so if Herc is a high herald then so is H/L THOR

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the more I think about it I'd say if both characters had their main weapons, Orion would beat Thor maybe 6.5/10. In this scenario I think I'd be hard pressed to give Thor one win.

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Strength and Durabilitywise I would consider Hercules and Hulk for that natter, high Heralds. Thor without the Hammer too.


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And there's the fact that Thor can still summon storms without Mjolnir, as being the God of Thunder is his birthright. And before anyone goes "when was the last time he did that without Mjolnir?", post-Thor Disassembled - the arc in which that point was clearly driven home - Thor hasn't been disarmed for terribly long enough to warrant him doing so. I suppose Avengers Prime would be one example as, iirc, he didn't have Mjolnir for a while while he was adventuring with Tony and Steve. Either way, Thor Disassembled wasn't the only time Thor's used his power without Mjolnir nor was it the only time it's been explicitly stated that Mjolnir was a tool and the power is within Thor's blood.

And there's the fact that Thor's fighting to the death here, too. Unless the OP wants this to be strictly melee, that is.


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FTR Hal isn't a high herald...


He most certainly is.

If you don't think so, you're not reading enough GL books.

I don't think many people would argue that he'd take a clear majority on the top HHs like Superman, Thor, SS though.


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And there's the fact that Thor can still summon storms without Mjolnir, as being the God of Thunder is his birthright. And before anyone goes "when was the last time he did that without Mjolnir?", post-Thor Disassembled - the arc in which that point was clearly driven home - Thor hasn't been disarmed for terribly long enough to warrant him doing so. I suppose Avengers Prime would be one example as, iirc, he didn't have Mjolnir for a while while he was adventuring with Tony and Steve. Either way, Thor Disassembled wasn't the only time Thor's used his power without Mjolnir nor was it the only time it's been explicitly stated that Mjolnir was a tool and the power is within Thor's blood.

And there's the fact that Thor's fighting to the death here, too. Unless the OP wants this to be strictly melee, that is.

I agree with this, Ill go one step further when Thor receive the OF from his father he subconsciously withheld the Odinforce from himself, all those feats as KT was done by himself. The hammer just helps Thor control/channel his godly power, that's it!!

Thor 6.5/10, with weapons Thor 8/10

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And before anyone goes "when was the last time he did that without Mjolnir?",


The thing is, how often does Thor HAVE TO do any of that without his hammer? I mean, he always has it, so it's kind of dumb to ask "when was the last time he did that without his hammer?" I think Marvel should do a story where he loses his hammer for a while, like maybe Odin wants to teach Thor to rely on his godly abilities, and then show him to be a badass without it.

But as far as fighting Orion without his hammer, I sorry to say that Thor doesn't stand a chance.

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the more I think about it I'd say if both characters had their main weapons, Orion would beat Thor maybe 6.5/10. In this scenario I think I'd be hard pressed to give Thor one win.


I'll co-sign this.

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The thing is, how often does Thor HAVE TO do any of that without his hammer? I mean, he always has it, so it's kind of dumb to ask "when was the last time he did that without his hammer?" I think Marvel should do a story where he loses his hammer for a while, like maybe Odin wants to teach Thor to rely on his godly abilities, and then show him to be a badass without it.

But as far as fighting Orion without his hammer, I sorry to say that Thor doesn't stand a chance.


IMO Thor wins. But that would be a cool story.

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I think Thor would miss it more but imho it should be always a 50-50 between top High Heralds like, Supes, SS, Thor, Orion or GL Hal (just examples).
I hate you and your "everything is 50-50" bullshit.

Eat dick and stop being so ghey.


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I hate you and your "everything is 50-50" bullshit.

Eat dick and stop being so ghey.

laughing out loud


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Btw orion beats thor's pansy ass.


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But that would be a cool story.


Yeah, it would be cool if it ran for a LONG time, and split the time up with him trying to figure out where his hammer went and who took it, and then just dealing with the standard stories of him in the MU just without the hammer....and also showing him maybe learning new abilities...

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