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Team Emperor Joker Vs Team Adult Franklin (Reality Warping!)

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Is this H1M with the Worlogog? I ask because of the picture you chooses to post.

Anyway, with the Worlogog in his hand he can take this fight by himself.

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Marquis,Jaspers and Franklin win this .


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Team Franklin isn't winning against Hourman + Worlogog.


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Marquis,Jaspers and Franklin win this .


Go and read what Extant with an incomplete Worlogog was able to do, then you'll realize how badly team Marvel loses.

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Is the worlogog here?


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It's "standard gear" for Hourman 1 Million, so I don't know why it wouldn't be.


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Go and read what Extant with an incomplete Worlogog was able to do, then you'll realize how badly team Marvel loses.


I know what he did with the Worlogog+Mobius Chair .

And my opinion still remains unchanged .

Edit : IIRC , the Worlogog is now in Metron's possession , and he no longer trusts Hourman with it . If we are using the latest incarnations of the characters , then the Worlogog can't be presumed to be part of Hourman's standard gear here .


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Usually in these types of threads where you have one cosmic entity against a team of other cosmic entities there's someone in the team which would win singlehandedly. In this case Jim Jaspers.

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2 + 2 = Fish.

That is all.


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Team 1.


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Team 1. Easily.


Based on what ?


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^ Imo, team 1 has better feats (assuming Hourman has the 'gog here.)


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^ Imo, team 1 has better feats (assuming Hourman has the 'gog here.)


Last I heard , Metron had removed the Worlogog from Hourman , because he no longer trusted him with it .

But still , even if he has the 'Gog , what makes you think it can overwhelm a team of a universal , an above-Abstract and an omniversal reality warper ?


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Last I heard , Metron had removed the Worlogog from Hourman , because he no longer trusted him with it .

But still , even if he has the 'Gog , what makes you think it can overwhelm a team of a universal , an above-Abstract and an omniversal reality warper ?
MJJ's omniversal potential is irrelevant. His top feat was warping a universe--and he was also powerless without reality to warp (a 'weakness' none of the DC team share)--so that's how I judge him.

Anyway, Extant used an incomplete Worlogog to created his own universe--and everything in it--from scratch. Feat-wise, that is more than enough to contend with anyone on team 2.


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MJJ's omniversal potential is irrelevant. His top feat was warping a universe--and he was also powerless without reality to warp (a 'weakness' none of the DC team share)--so that's how I judge him.

Anyway, Extant used an incomplete Worlogog to created his own universe--and everything in it--from scratch. Feat-wise, that is more than enough to contend with anyone on team 2.


MJJ also overcame Matrix-Merlyn , who was an omniversal power . What makes you think that any of the team would be able to capitalize on his UnSpace weakness , the way Fury did ?

Also , Extant used the incomplete Worlogog in conjunction with the Mobius Chair . Not saying that he couldn't have done it without that , just that its what the on-panel evidence shows us .


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MJJ also overcame Matrix-Merlyn , who was an omniversal power . What makes you think that any of the team would be able to capitalize on his UnSpace weakness , the way Fury did ?

Also , Extant used the incomplete Worlogog in conjunction with the Mobius Chair . Not saying that he couldn't have done it without that , just that its what the on-panel evidence shows us .
Omniversal, lol. Anyway a user of the 'gog gains literal omniscience. He would absolutely know about the unspace thing.

Nope, extant only used the chair to gather the pieces of the 'gog that hourman had previously scattered across the multiverse. The construction of a universe was accomplished with the 'gog alone.


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Omniversal, lol. Anyway a user of the 'gog gains literal omniscience. He would absolutely know about the unspace thing.

Nope, extant only used the chair to gather the pieces of the 'gog that hourman had previously scattered across the multiverse. The construction of a universe was accomplished with the 'gog alone.


Matrix-Merlyn was an omniversal power .
I am not saying that team 1 won't know his weakness , I am saying how will they capitalize on it the way Fury did ?

That is precisely what I mean by "using in conjunction" . It seems that you also didn't read the very next sentence .


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Omniversal, lol.

Anyway a user of the 'gog gains literal omniscience.

... literal omniscience, lol.

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He would absolutely know about the unspace thing.

Which means less than nothing if one doesn't have the power to force him there.

Fury had a plot on his side (immune to Jaspers' warp)
plus durability > Eternity/Infinity ...
plus the inherit power to adapt and figure the win.

Since "literal omniscience" works for DC in this neutral zone,
MJJ's overwhelming nothing stop it Reality Warp is just as viable.

Therefore, he solos the field.


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Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Matrix-Merlyn was an omniversal power .
I am not saying that team 1 won't know his weakness , I am saying how will they capitalize on it the way Fury did ?

That is precisely what I mean by "using in conjunction" . It seems that you also didn't read the very next sentence .
by having the power to do so?

This leads me to believe that you may not know what you're talking about. The chair was not used to help construct the universe. It literally had nothing to do with it.


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