In a battle of wits , intelligence and knowledge , which of these two prodigious kids from the Future Foundation and the Hellfire Club respectively , wins ?
How ? Val's prep experience includes her being influential in delaying the MC's sufficiently , along with aiding in the defeat of the Marquis of Death(who's as much of sociopathic freak guy as they come) .
She developed a a comprehensive plan on how to defeat and subjugate one of the most advanced interstellar civilizations in the galaxy . Granted , it never got enacted , but still .
IMO , Val takes this one , although it'll be close .
If you give him this battle based on resources , then Val's outshine anything Kilgore has . I am not sure whether the Hellfire Club could take down the Future Foundation , plus Val has access to all of her father's superior gadgetry and stuff .
Her tendency to lie and deceive(a trait which is reminiscent if Doom) implies an aggressive personality , and it nullifies whatever psychological advantage Kade might hold on her .
This would a great confrontation! That said, although Kade is an intelligent badass in his own right, Valeria would likely outsmart him. She's far too intelligent and, unlike her brother Franklin, has an untapped darker side -- a side that Kade might underestimate in her. It would be really cool to see various members the Future Foundation (e.g., Val, Franklin, Bentley, Alex..) interact with the new Hellfire Club though. Kade and Val might actually have a mutual respect for each other. He'd definitely be disgusted with Franklin, though, for obvious reasons. Kade hates mutants and Franklin clearly represents the ultimate potential in that particular species. And, considering that they're both somewhat close in age, Kade might foolishly view Franklin as a rival (much the same way Lex looks upon Superman).
He would underestimate her dark side though. If you combine that with her vast intellectual prowess, Val comes out ahead. Sure, Kade would do some damage, but in the end, he would unlikely prevail against the child who might, one day, become Doom.
Agreed. In my opinion, Valeria is a somewhat darker version of her father, Reed Richards. Franklin, although obviously more powerful, is more like Sue. That said, you really don't want to mess with a darker version of Reed Richards -- child or not.
You're looking at what they've done in simplistic terms. Valeria, having recently assured her parents that she would no longer keep secrets from them, conveniently neglected to inform them how she left a special "gift" for her "Uncle" Doom, that is, an entire room full of alternate Dooms as well as two infinity gauntlets. She essentially gave Doom the means to do a lot more damage than killing a single human being in cold blood. Valeria plays both sides. "Look like the flower, but be the serpent under it!"
Except for the instances I mentioned .
He has attacked a bunch of kids ? Wow really impressive . Compared to Val who was building plans to conquer and subjugate the whole Kree empire just for the lulz .
That Superman-Luthor analogy is pretty insightful . IMO , this fight may be like Batman(Val) vs Luthor(Kade) , since Val probably is to Franklin what Batman is to Superman .
Having a darker side doesn't necessarily equate to evil, I think. Bruce Wayne, for example, makes use of his vast intelligence and resources, along with his obvious darker methodology to outsmart and take down "cold blooded killers" all the time.
Valeria is simply Kade's intellectual superior. She'd disable his resources and hurt him in ways he wouldn't see coming.
This is similar to that , not exactly like that . I don't know who exactly would come out on top b/w Lex and Bruce , so I won't comment on those two .
Kade has nowhere near the feats to contend with Valeria . His ruthlessness and aggression are the only thing which'll give him an advantage against her , and whether it'll be enough to beat her is debatable .
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