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Cool Iron Fist vs Sabastian Shaw

Rand vs Shaw get your tickets now and your opinions in now.


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Shaw.


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I think so to but I am sure some people will think different.


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Shaw is nowhere near fast enough to ever lay a hand on Danny.

And Shaw has been overloaded by a lightning bolt in the past. I can see Danny simply blasting him until he overloads him with chi energy.

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When else has Shaw been overloaded?


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Originally posted by Glorificus
Shaw is nowhere near fast enough to ever lay a hand on Danny.

And Shaw has been overloaded by a lightning bolt in the past. I can see Danny simply blasting him until he overloads him with chi energy.


Sounds like a low end showing for Shaw..

I agree, Danny is faster.

Has Shaw's energies ever been manipulated before? Danny has at least a half dozen examples of manipulating various forms of energy, including wrestling with the energies in Wreckers magic crowbar.. (Even though he lost that struggle..)

He's also done pressure point KO's in the past, by applying pressure to the neck.. Both on people, and on wolves. Wonder if that would be enough to KO Shaw..

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A lightning bolt is around a 30,000 degrees of heat or enough energy to light 150,000,000 light bulbs.


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Shaw is nowhere near fast enough to ever lay a hand on Danny.

And Shaw has been overloaded by a lightning bolt in the past. I can see Danny simply blasting him until he overloads him with chi energy.


Shaw has hit faster people than Danny with minimal effort.

Red Lotus had some mild success with pressure points and keeping Shaw of balance when they fought, buying him enough time to flee, but that should probably be chalked up to PIS. Shaw should have little effort taking a clean sweep against Danny.


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Shaw has hit faster people than Danny with minimal effort.


roll eyes (sarcastic)

Batman hit Superman. I guess Batman is faster than Danny too.

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Shaw has hit faster people than Danny with minimal effort.

Red Lotus had some mild success with pressure points and keeping Shaw of balance when they fought, buying him enough time to flee, but that should probably be chalked up to PIS. Shaw should have little effort taking a clean sweep against Danny.


And Spiderman has beaten Firelord. Slade has tripped the Flash.

Why chalk Red Lotus using pressure points to keep Shaw off balance as PIS, after you just stated Shaw has hit people faster than Danny when he has no business doing so, outside of said PIS?

*confused*.

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Batman hit Superman. I guess Batman is faster than Danny too.


Do you want to think about the difference between that example and what we are talking about here... or do you really need it explained to you?


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Shaw's speed amps up as well, right? All his physical abilities get better.


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Shaw's speed amps up as well, right? All his physical abilities get better.


To what degree? And how long does it take to reach at the very least bullet-timing speed - which he will need in order have reflexes and reaction speeds anywhere near Danny's.

And in order to reach such physical levels, exactly how much energy will he need to absorb? Could it be possible he simply gets overloaded before he has a chance to utilize the boosted stats, on account of Danny blasting him or pressure-pointing him several times before he finishes a single swing?

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And Spiderman has beaten Firelord. Slade has tripped the Flash.

Why chalk Red Lotus using pressure points to keep Shaw off balance as PIS, after you just stated Shaw has hit people faster than Danny when he has no business doing so, outside of said PIS?

*confused*.




First off all Iron Fist isn't the Flash. He has peak - to low LOW level super human speed. He is in NO way or form unhittable... especially when the person he is fighting can tank every hit and counter punch on the exchange. Second of all, Shaw amps his speed as well as his strength, which everyone has conveniently forgotten.

Red Lotus keeping Shaw off briefly keeping Shaw off balance is fine. Pressure points having any effect on him is PIS due to the nature of his powers. His body absorbs mechanical energy and turns it into


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Shaw with mild difficulty. Shaw took it to wolverine well.

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IF isn't limited to physical attacks, he can do that Jedi wave thing and make Shaw fall asleep.

Also Shaw has been kod a few times purely with physical force, a full strength IF attack could put his lights out ... but it's a gamble.


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IF isn't limited to physical attacks, he can do that Jedi wave thing and make Shaw fall asleep.

Also Shaw has been kod a few times purely with physical force, a full strength IF attack could put his lights out ... but it's a gamble.


Shaw's taken a haymaker on the jaw from Colossus with a smirk on his face.

You are going to need more than Orson Randell hypnotizing a fat middle aged both attendant (I'm sure his mental fortitude and will power was astoundingly strong), to build a case for Danny winning via hypnoses...


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IF isn't limited to physical attacks, he can do that Jedi wave thing and make Shaw fall asleep.


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